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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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The voice chat rooms reminds me exactly of this program called Ventrillo or “vent” as we used to call it back when I was in high school. I’m officially old! https://www.ventrilo.com/

okay oldie... when I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends while playing games with them you both needed a second phone line, so your 56k modems could use the other line to play Doom

At my high school, our CS lab had two Teletype terminals that were connected to a remote HP minicomputer over 110 baud (that's 10 chars/sec) acoustic couplers/modems. You had to dial the computer's number then put the handset into a foam-lined wooden box and close the lid. To upload a game, like Star Trek, we punched the game onto paper tape while not connected, then fed the paper tape back through once we got connected. Getting a connection could take 10-15 minutes of manually redialing after getting a busy signal because the service was so oversubscribed.

Our "high speed" terminal was a 300 baud (30 CPS) CRT.

These 3 terminals were shared by about 15 kids per class.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Makes the users feel like the devs care.

> Makes the users feel like the devs care. Isn't that true of virtually all internet companies BEFORE their IPO? After the IPO, the new owners (aka: the stock market investors) demand profits. And those profit demands result in the slowly, but surely, fleecing of customers. Be it Geocities, Tumblr, Slack, or whatever really. If you start with a "growth-oriented" service with a free product for clicks/subscribers, the…

I pay for Discord. They know how to wring money out of their customers.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

https://guilded.gg is pretty decent

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Unfortunately software companies now view customisability as a bad thing, as their priority is profit, and that often involves making the client less usable. Discord wouldn't be able to periodically shift around the UI to make you accidentally click on the "Gift Nitro" button if they had to respect the layout you customised.

Why would moving the UI about result in 'accidental revenue'? We're not talking about ads here.

I'm just as confused as you are as to why anyone on the planet would click where the "attach image" button used to be, see a popup for gifting Nitro, and go "sure, let's do that instead", but evidently Discord thinks that at least some people are going to do that, or else they wouldn't have made such an absurdly hostile change in the first place.

Presumably they're banking on people who would have gifted Nitro in the first place but were just unaware of the feature.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.

I wish my workplace could use Discord instead of Teams. The drop-in voice channels would be so handy.

Slack is launching these soon.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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That's one incident. I'm talking about a pattern of behavior where staff members act unprofessionally. That includes telling your users "I can just change your ID lol" even if they don't end up doing it. Discord didn't fire the person who was joking about database edits the most (or anyone to my knowledge). All they did was close the outlet for staff to show their badge off and brag about it. That doesn't fix anythin…

> I'm talking about a pattern of behavior where staff members act unprofessionally. Could you please provide some sources? As the other poster noted this is the first time we hear of this. Would be keen on knowing more

As long as you provide yours about Teamspeak servers.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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My first modem was 1200 baud. I remember looking with a jealous eye at my friends USRobotics Courier HST, with its awesome looks and blazing 14.4k speeds. I believe it set him back around $1,200 1989 dollars, or about $2,600 in today's terms. He could download a compressed 1.44MB floppy disk image with the latest Leisure Suit Larry game from one of several exclusive pirate BBS'es in just around 15 minutes (as long as…

USR HST was very robust against phone pick-ups, it would quietly blink and resume working as soon as the annoyed would-be caller replaced the handset! I spent $400 in hard-earned teenage income on a USR refurb and never felt buyer's remorse.

I totally forgot about this issue with dial-up modems. The good ones would temporarily pause a connection when someone picked up the phone and the cheapos would instantly lose the connection. My family was too poor to afford to phone lines and it made me value time online (also made me have to use the Internet at odd hours when people were unlikely to call the house).

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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I guess, we should expect a version of Discord built by Microsoft, integrated into Xbox and Minecraft.

And if Teams is any indication as to the resulting quality of the end product, it won't be very good. It amazes me a company as rich and big as Microsoft struggles to build good software when it comes to copying competitors.

Let's be fair! Slack copied Yammer in large parts, which was acquired by Microsoft. And Teams is actually better than Slack in many ways. I don't think they will just add features to Teams that compete with Discord. It probably would "fix" Skype.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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However, individually deleting messages using their API does delete them from their servers[0]. [0]: https://blog.discord.com/how-discord-stores-billions-of-mess...

It does, but that is not always an option. What if you shared personal information on a server you no longer have access to? Your only option is to wait a week for your data export and then wait another 2-3 weeks for a support ticket to get to the stage of threatening Discord into actually removing individual messages. What if you're being stalked? What if you said something incridebly dumb on a server you assumed wa…

I tried the data export, but did not get any of my messages from the guilds I am no more a member of.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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> I'm talking about a pattern of behavior where staff members act unprofessionally. Could you please provide some sources? As the other poster noted this is the first time we hear of this. Would be keen on knowing more

As long as you provide yours about Teamspeak servers.

I dont believe I spoke about nor said anything about Teamspeak. What are you referring to?
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