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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by ProZsolt »

stefandesu wrote: post #518
technosmurf wrote: post #415

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The arrow keys on the smaller model are unfortunately full-sized (like the older Magic Keyboard 2). I created an image gallery where you can see all 3 keyboard layouts shown in the keynote video today: - Magic Keyboard 3 (lock button) - Magic Keyboard 3 (Touch ID) - Magic Keyboard 3 (Touch ID and numeric keys, inverted T layout) https://gist.github.com/spiritphyz/bac975617d513b5b4010a6828...

What I want is pretty much the exact same keyboard that is in my MacBook Air, but as an external one. TKL, small inverted T layout, TouchID.

With USB-C charging

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by pertymcpert »

yarcob wrote: post #411
pertymcpert wrote: post #308

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Isn't that a good trade off? Most people would love a better looking computer for their living room.

I can only speak for myself, and I hate power bricks with a passion. You need to find a place to hide them, they are annoying when cleaning, and they are annoying when you move devices (need to untangle not only cable but also power brick). Why get an all-in-one when it requires attaching a box to it? I might as well get a Mac mini at that point (which still has a built in PSU)

Well...don't they usually go behind a desk? Or behind some furniture? There are solutions to this problem.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by alwillis »

codezero wrote: post #466
alwillis wrote: post #465

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They can't replace the Intel 27" iMac with the M1 because it would have worse multicore performance. Based on all the benchmarks we've seen with existing M1 Macs, that's clearly not the case. The issue of being limited to only 16 MB is likely more the issue with replacing the 27-inch Intel iMac.

I am not getting one of these because of the ram limitation but only because I currently have 16GB and it "feels off" At this point I'm convinced that 16GB M1 isn't comparable to 16GB DDR3/4 simply because of the architecture and that the RAM is so close to the CPU. We've already seen that they are doing some crazy efficient stuff with memory, but all that said, it still feels anemic for a desktop, and I suspect the…

From what I’ve read, with the M1’s unified memory and the ability to swap extremely quickly, it’s like the SSD is more of a cache, making the limited RAM much less of an issue— https://singhkays.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-black-magic/

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by laurent92 »

hyakosm wrote: post #431
robin_reala wrote: post #369

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There’s Ethernet as well.

And a jack headphones port :)

It’s basically a laptop without the transportability. Only 255GB disk. No numeric keypad. Have to use a bulky charger. Have to carry dongles for the Blue Yeti microphone in USB2 (and the printer). Need a SD adapter to download the films from my reflex camera. Can’t plug headphones.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by laurent92 »

minimaxir wrote: post #39
BitwiseFool wrote: post #19

I'm really surprised that Apple decided not to have the Apple Logo emblazoned on the front of the iMac. It's a good looking computer but if you had shown me one before this event I would have assumed it was some other all-in-one PC. I also can't help but think a black bezel would look better.

The lack of a black color in general is notable. (likely saving it for a Pro)

Wouldn’t the iMac Pro have no bezels instead of black bezels? That would be congruent with having 27" instead of 21".

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by laurent92 »

Ashanmaril wrote: post #57
manigandham wrote: post #23

> "iMac comes with a new power connector that attaches magnetically and a beautifully woven 2-meter-long color-matched cable." Magsafe for a stationary computer...

I mean, the idea with MagSafe is that if someone trips over it, it won't yank the device to the ground, so that still applies to stationary devices. But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

iMac 2013: Simply adjusting the screen yanks the cable off. iMac 2021: Can’t wait to lose my work. It makes so much sense on a Macbook where there is a battery to take over.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by laurent92 »

modeless wrote: post #380
JohnWhigham wrote: post #113

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Which makes you wonder: why the hell did they remove it from the MBP...only to re-introduce it to another product 3 years later? Do different product teams just not talk to each other at Apple?

I guess that they would have used USB-C here too, but the power supply is 143 watts and USB-C only supports 100. As long as they need to use a non-USB-C connector, they might as well make it a nice one. I think the worse thing is that the iMac needs to ship with a USB-C to Lighting cable in order to charge the terrible Magic Mouse via its ridiculous bottom port that prevents use of the mouse while charging. And even…

I’ve been looking for a Magic Mouse replacement with cable, but I can’t find any with horizontal scrolling.

Does anyone know any?

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by germ »

portlander52232 wrote: post #83

It'd be cool if they made a single-key Touch ID accessory for people who use other keyboards. Since they probably won't, I wonder if it's feasible to take the keyboard and chop it down to a smaller size.

I was just thinking this, as cool as having TouchID on a keyboard is, I'm not willing to keep a spare keyboard or ditch my GergoPlex for it.

Another user pointed out that a Watch can fill a similar void, but keeping one _just_ for authentication seems overkill.

Maybe binding the system password into the keyboard firmware is ok. Unless you need to worry about someone dumping FW or decamping chips or whatever.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by floatboth »

ssijak wrote: post #334
floatboth wrote: post #214

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Most likely 14-16 laptops (and iMac Pro if they decide to do that again) will have a larger chip (say "M1X") that supports more memory. The M1 only supports two LPDDR4X chips (physically on the package there's only space for two).

Is there a physical reason why those 2 LPDDR4X chips could not be in a 2x16gb configuration and are topped at 2x8gb currently?

No one even makes 16Gb on one chip. Samsung and Micron currently max out at 12Gb and I would imagine there's much less supply of these than of 4 and 8.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by solarkraft »

laurent92 wrote: post #534
hyakosm wrote: post #431

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And a jack headphones port :)

It’s basically a laptop without the transportability. Only 255GB disk. No numeric keypad. Have to use a bulky charger. Have to carry dongles for the Blue Yeti microphone in USB2 (and the printer). Need a SD adapter to download the films from my reflex camera. Can’t plug headphones.

It's funny/weird that they only put the ethernet port on the power supply. They could've put some more USB ports on it for connecting accessories in a clean manner. If you're using a docking station already, why the hell not do it properly? For this iMac the connection could've been USB-C, btw (but it probably can't be for the larger ones).

Furthering the idea of putting things into an external unit to save space on the desk, what if they also put the computing hardware into something like a power brick? Sounds crazy, I know, but the display could be very thin that way and there would be no need for thick chins or tons of dongles on the table.

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