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All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by arvinsim »

jimjimjimjim wrote: post #435
happyjack wrote: post #345

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I totally feel you on the Apple store part. That's another feature that is very tempting to me. Anything break? Fine, drive straight to the Apple store and get it taken care of.

Yep anywhere in the world! And the nice thing is that a lot of people buy the products so manufacturing issues are usually brought to light and you get extended warranty for that issue.

Unfortunately, that only happens in first world countries. Lots of countries still don't have a single Apple store.

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Post by arvinsim »

happyjack wrote: post #467
lupire wrote: post #461

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What are you talking about? "Coder bro"? "New Balance" sneakers arent related to computers.

The New Balance refer to the fact that I'm old and crusty. I work in engineering but am not a software developer (majority of folks here are). Running Red Hat makes you old, too,

So RHEL = old, Pop!_OS = young?

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Post by arvinsim »

golergka wrote: post #403
JohnWhigham wrote: post #113

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Which makes you wonder: why the hell did they remove it from the MBP...only to re-introduce it to another product 3 years later? Do different product teams just not talk to each other at Apple?

I had this question too, but couple of days ago, I tripped over USB-C power cable for my MBP, and it just unplugged without taking my laptop from the table or any damage whatsoever. So... may be it fits this use-case anyway?

A sample size of one is hardly data.

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Post by djhn »

manigandham wrote: post #168
slg wrote: post #138

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The lightness, size, wireless connectivity, and boot speed of this device makes it more likely to move around the house than a traditional desktop or even the recent iMacs. I could certainly imagine scenarios in which someone purchases multiple power cables, plugs them in throughout the house, and then brings the computer from their desk into the kitchen while making dinner or something. That is already a common prac…

Except this doesn't have a battery, touchscreen or keyboard attached. It seems extremely unlikely for someone to do this instead of just getting a laptop or tablet for this price.

I have an iMac pro as my main workstation in an open plan apartment/home office, and will often move it from my desk to the large kitchen table (to collaborate with someone when they're over). The extension cord I use is long enough to keep it powered on.

I quite like it, and with the recent shift to working from home and decrease in travel over the next couple of years I think I'll stick with this set-up for the foreseeable future: powerful desktop driving 3 5k retina monitors + cheapest laptop or ipad I can get away with on the go.

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Post by arvinsim »

alwillis wrote: post #473
Toutouxc wrote: post #79

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You will not like the answer if you have to ask, but here goes: It's beautiful.

And light and easy to move around if necessary. Once needed to bring my old 27-inch Intel iMac to collaborate in-person on a project. It weighed 30.5 pounds, which isn't super heavy but it was a hassle to transport. The 24-inch M1 iMac weighs a little under 10 pounds. You could bring one of these into a conference room at work with no problem.

And why wouldn't an M1 laptop fill this use case?

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Post by Rhedox »

fastball wrote: post #231
slantyyz wrote: post #221

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> Planned obsolescence has never really been Apple's style (their devices generally get longer software support and have better resale value than anyone else). I think that only applies to their mobile devices. I have had Intel Macs that can't run the latest MacOS but can still Boot Camp into Windows 10. Of course, this is all moot in a post-Intel Apple world.

Windows 10 was released in 2015. Apple releases a new major macOS update every year. Not really surprised that you can run 6 year old software + minor updates on an 6-10 year old machine but can't run a major software revision from the past couple years.

Windows 10 consistently gets updates just like Mac OS gets updates.

This is like saying Mac OS X is 10 year old software.

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Post by e_proxus »

Toutouxc wrote: post #79
matsemann wrote: post #52

Why does a stationary computer need to be so thin that they can't fit an ethernet port and have to place it in the charger?

You will not like the answer if you have to ask, but here goes: It's beautiful.

Since it is a desktop computer it makes total sense to move Ethernet to the power brick. That way, you can have a single cable up from under your desk to the computer. I'm collecting all my cables in a rack under the desk anyway, and the less cables I have to route over the desk the better.

Wish there was a USB hub on the brick as well!

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Post by stefandesu »

technosmurf wrote: post #415
frereubu wrote: post #237

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I can't see what the arrow key layout is on the narrower (non-numeric-keypad) version because a hand is over it. It looks like there's a big key where there would be space above the left / right keys on the most recent one. I've got one of the interim ones where the left / right keys are full size so it's difficult to know where they are by touch, and I'm still irritated by that. I hope they haven't gone back again.

The arrow keys on the smaller model are unfortunately full-sized (like the older Magic Keyboard 2). I created an image gallery where you can see all 3 keyboard layouts shown in the keynote video today: - Magic Keyboard 3 (lock button) - Magic Keyboard 3 (Touch ID) - Magic Keyboard 3 (Touch ID and numeric keys, inverted T layout) https://gist.github.com/spiritphyz/bac975617d513b5b4010a6828...

What I want is pretty much the exact same keyboard that is in my MacBook Air, but as an external one. TKL, small inverted T layout, TouchID.

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Post by arvinsim »

vmception wrote: post #81

Can someone explain the 8gb obsession (edit: 16gb is possible, but why not more) ? is there a real limitation with this architecture or are they just making a business decision so they can sell multiple models over 2-3 years instead of creating what the market wants immediately

Not sure why people are still confused about this.

Apple is a company. It is beholden to focus on profits for it's shareholders.

Why give users more RAM for free?

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Post by alwillis »

arvinsim wrote: post #515
alwillis wrote: post #473

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And light and easy to move around if necessary. Once needed to bring my old 27-inch Intel iMac to collaborate in-person on a project. It weighed 30.5 pounds, which isn't super heavy but it was a hassle to transport. The 24-inch M1 iMac weighs a little under 10 pounds. You could bring one of these into a conference room at work with no problem.

And why wouldn't an M1 laptop fill this use case?

Of course it could; but there are other trade-offs such as screen size, etc.
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