Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by FqOD4xih7Uq6m9Z » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 1:39 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #84

ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

Apple confirmed to Verge that it doesn't have UWB.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/20/22394335/apple-u1-uwb-loc...

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by addaon » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

mastercheif wrote: post #148

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

The original touch AppleTV remote was probably ill-considered, but the accelerant of its demise was Apple ceasing to care if third-parties used native UIKit controls on AppleTV in a chase to get all of the channels and services to port their SmartTV applications over. For example, the original YouTube app on the AppleTV 4th generation was great. Navigating was a breeze with the native scroll momentum and sensitivity,…

Is this also why the Youtube AppleTV app went from twelve thumbnails on a screen to three full ones, some cut-off ones, and a whole bunch of gray space? I'd say my YouTube usage is down 90% with that change, and will be cancelling Premium this billing cycle as a result. What were they thinking!?

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by pkulak » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

fomine3 wrote: post #314

pkulak wrote: post #100

I wonder if this puppy will have hardware AV1 decoding support.

A14 is the first Apple's SoC with AV1 hardware decoding, so Apple TV with A12 won't support.

Wow, that's really disappointing.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by matt-attack » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 2:42 PM UTC

duskwuff wrote: post #222

lemoncucumber wrote: post #143

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I'm pretty certain that the ATV remote beams good old fashioned infrared signals to change the volume on your TV/soundbar/receiver directly without involving the ATV itself.

The Apple TV remote doesn't emit infrared. The Apple TV does that itself! (This means that "learned" remote commands work even if you're controlling the Apple TV with your phone, or with a Bluetooth controller.)

Are you telling me I should have my appletv positioned so that I can shine into my TV’s ir receiver?

Mine is behind the tv.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by fearbeer » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 3:06 PM UTC

Apple finally supports CEC, I can choose to not use the apple TV remote.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by nikisweeting » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 4:31 PM UTC

tommit wrote: post #326

nikisweeting wrote: post #316

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And yet, the Magic Mouse with a lightning port on the bottom exists :)

And every time someone points it out, another one points out that it was a conscious decision meant to push you to keep your mouse unplugged. Plus, charging it for a few minutes gives you hours of battery life again.

I can list off like 40 more bad UX decisions by Apple, that's by no means the only one, but I'd rather not start a flame war.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by yazaddaruvala » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #51

yazaddaruvala wrote: post #24

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Taking a random guess, I think it’s because the location of the AppleTV doesn’t help identify the location of the actual screen. There would need to be some awkward configuration step (redone every time the AppleTV or screen moves) that Apple just wouldn’t ask its customers to do.

You don't really need an awkward configuration step, though, because you can rely on the fact that users are usually looking at the screen. Just take the median orientation of the earbuds over time, and you're configured. You can also rely on the fact that the user is almost certainly looking directly at the screen every time they navigate the UX with the remote.

Oh, I love this line of thought! However, I'd switch it to be multi-modal, i.e. not just "median orientation of earbuds over time", but also ___.

Specifically, one more example, people need to use their AirPods with a TV because the rest of the household needs quiet. However, there are typically speakers already set up "correctly" oriented (especially with surround sound).

The AppleTV and AirPods could automatically communicate through the individual speakers (at frequencies we can't hear), to correlate the user's location/orientation in relation with the "optimal sitting spot, based on audio".

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by zdwolfe » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 6:12 PM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #123

anw wrote: post #90

I frequently travel, and bring my AppleTV with me to hook up to hotel TVs. It would be great if they made a way to support Web logins for WiFi. At the moment, I do t see a big change between this version and the one I own. If they added that feature, I’d buy it in a heartbeat so I could stop spoofing my AppleTV’s MAC on my laptop just to login to the hotel web portals.

I just did this and used hotspot sharing from my phones LTE. Was faster than the WiFi I was at!

Doesn't watching video burn through your data?

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by QuizzicalCarbon » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 6:13 PM UTC

mihail_m wrote: post #183

josteink wrote: post #173

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> This is a great feature and kudos to Apple for bringing it to the previous generation of Apple TV. I can’t see that mentioned anywhere. Got any details on that? Do you need some app or update?

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-unveils-the-nex... Go to the press release above, scroll down until the end, and refer to footnote 2. It is about calibration - it requires an iPhone with FaceID, IOS/tvOS 14.5 and is available as well for the 1st generation Apple TV 4K.

Thank you for pointing this out, I was totally unaware. This is a big win for current Apple TV 4K users.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by sevencolors » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 6:32 PM UTC

slantyyz wrote: post #166

sevencolors wrote: post #28

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We have a house rule that if you use the remote, it stays on the coffee table and then goes back to a spot next to the TV when done. Otherwise the couch eats the remote. Feels like they could make it chirp like AirPods?

Real question - does the Apple TV support multiple remotes? I've sort of addressed that problem with my FireTV by adding a remote. This way there's still a remote around that I can use while hunting for the one that I misplaced. I have not had a situation where I misplaced both remotes... yet...

There's a iOS app that can be used as a remote. Not sure about another physical remote. They're just paired like anything else so I would assume it's possible