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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by ericmay »

volta83 wrote: post #168

Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned. Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later. You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that. But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of cri…

What model? I have an Apple TV (not a 4k version, couple years old) and YouTube works just fine for me. I have the latest updates.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by AlphaWeaver »

cyxxon wrote: post #162
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #131

Something that might be being overlooked - it looks like this supports pairing Xbox One controllers that use Xbox Wireless! This is a different standard than Bluetooth and should enable everyone who has Xbox controllers to easily use them in Apple Arcade. Impressive!

That is a bit misleading: a lot of Xbox One wireless controllers work with Bluetooth, it seems Microsoft switched this during the production run. I have one at home for use with my PC, I don't own an Xbox, and it works without any receiver. My old 360 controller needs the wireless receiver though, that is the old protocol (or maybe not the same protocol? Not sure...)

In the beginning, the Bluetooth versions of the controllers weren't sold with the console, and they were specialty, mostly for PC gamers. There's still a fair number of controllers out there that can only connect via Xbox Wireless.

If the new Apple TV can actually pair with those, that's a big deal.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by josteink »

mihail_m wrote: post #150
oivey wrote: post #30

The automatic color calibration looks be really nice. Most TVs are not well calibrated by default. I wish it would let you export the results to change the settings for all connected devices, but that’s probably too TV specific.

This is a great feature and kudos to Apple for bringing it to the previous generation of Apple TV. This feature will improve image quality without having to pay insane amounts for calibration.

> This is a great feature and kudos to Apple for bringing it to the previous generation of Apple TV.

I can’t see that mentioned anywhere.

Got any details on that?

Do you need some app or update?

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by dbt00 »

tptacek wrote: post #156
markphip wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use my phone often too, but you cannot control the volume from your phone so you need another remote too. My Samsung TV remote works pretty well as the Apple TV remote though too. The DirecTV remote control was also programmable and worked OK. They both just lack the Home button but you can use the Back button enough times to do without it.

You're the second person to say this, but for what it's worth: the iPhone remote app is literally the only way I control the volume on my AV system.

Me too mostly but it's annoying that it's in a weird place not directly accessible from the remote widget in control center.

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Post by MaxLeiter »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

If you have an iPhone I absolutely love the Apple TV remote app. Feels like the remote design was made for the phone. I wish other apps or console also let you use your phone to type or control

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by sethhochberg »

tbyehl wrote: post #167
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

> Most people who aren't somewhat tech savvy just will give up Ugh. I hated the thing 'cause it was non-intuitive to learn initially and required a level of precision in operation that's just ridiculous relative to its primary function. When my aging mother (RIP) moved in with me, she could not use it at all due to declining fine motor control. Now every TV I own has a Roku built-in and I can't imagine ever going bac…

The Roku remotes really are fantastic - especially the built-in headphone jack. My only complaint is that they really eat batteries, especially when using that headphone jack, but at least they're still sticking with standard AAs that I can just keep in a charger nearby instead of having to dock the thing or plug it in.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by ziml77 »

goodcjw2 wrote: post #18

Honestly speaking, the problem with Apple TV is that chips like A12 are such a overkill for TV box use cases. I recently purchased a $30 Roku and find it has almost 99% of the features that an Apple TV would have (including airplay2). Yes, Apple TV would have better color, visual quality, etc, but that's way into the realm of dismissed return for the investment IMHO.

With a smart TV I actually don't see any reason to use Apple or Google's solutions. I stopped using my Nvidia Shield when I realized that the experience from my LG C9 was as good or better. Even has support for AirPlay.

Of course in some years it's likely to stop receiving updates and fall behind, but I can wait until that happens to look into an external box again.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by volta83 »

ericmay wrote: post #171
volta83 wrote: post #168

Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned. Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later. You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that. But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of cri…

What model? I have an Apple TV (not a 4k version, couple years old) and YouTube works just fine for me. I have the latest updates.

Apple TV 3rd Gen.

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by [deleted] »

lemoncucumber wrote: post #143
jolux wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It uses HDMI ARC but it's pretty flaky from the iPhone in my experience. Works more consistently with the remote itself. No idea why.

I'm pretty certain that the ATV remote beams good old fashioned infrared signals to change the volume on your TV/soundbar/receiver directly without involving the ATV itself.

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Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by Method-X »

ksec wrote: post #84
ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

> Then someday may be they could allow Apple TV to be a Router so there is one less devices in my living room. And they could also act as a mesh system.

This is a great idea! Also, it would be awesome if Apple offered a version of Apple TV as a sound bar. Ideally it would be sound bar/router/tvOS.

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