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I'm a decently savvy iPhone user and the traditional remote is absolute garbage. Wonder if you can just buy the remote independently and use on old hardware?

You can. $59. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote

Awesome. Definitely getting it. My current Apple TV 4K is fine, but the remote is garbage.

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Something that might be being overlooked - it looks like this supports pairing Xbox One controllers that use Xbox Wireless! This is a different standard than Bluetooth and should enable everyone who has Xbox controllers to easily use them in Apple Arcade. Impressive!

That is a bit misleading: a lot of Xbox One wireless controllers work with Bluetooth, it seems Microsoft switched this during the production run. I have one at home for use with my PC, I don't own an Xbox, and it works without any receiver. My old 360 controller needs the wireless receiver though, that is the old protocol (or maybe not the same protocol? Not sure...)

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I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

For me a touch screen as a remote is even worse than the terrible Apple TV remote. I like being able to pick it up and use it without looking at it (and without lighting up the dark room if we’re watching a movie or something).

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They also redesigned the remote so that it's not a gigantic pain in the ass.

Can I pay for just the new remote? Will it work with the old AppleTV 4K?

Available here apparently. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote

Says it's compatible even with AppleTV HD.

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A lot of people watch TV/movies at night with headphones instead of speakers, in order not to wake up the kids, grandparents, someone who works early, etc. Especially when you want to fully experience those big loud action sequences without making the house actually rumble. This is for people when they aren't using their speakers at all. Edit in response to your edit: I think you may be misunderstanding Apple's spati…

It’s still post processing to create a sound stage to a stereo signal. Nothing wrong with that, but for instance if I’m watching a movie on an iPhone or something, I’m assuming I can’t get the true audio experience of the film. When it’s a movie I really am into, then I’m going to watch it in full surround, with discreet speakers. 7.1 to stereo headphones is always a compromise whether it’s Apple spatial audio, or Do…

> I’m just guessing their market for 4K Apple TV is more home theater people.

Nope, it's just average people with TV's in their living rooms. Apple TV (even the 4K version) is just an average consumer product.

And at least for non-tech people I know who have families, watching Apple TV at night with Airpods is super common.

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As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

We have a house rule that if you use the remote, it stays on the coffee table and then goes back to a spot next to the TV when done. Otherwise the couch eats the remote. Feels like they could make it chirp like AirPods?

Real question - does the Apple TV support multiple remotes?

I've sort of addressed that problem with my FireTV by adding a remote. This way there's still a remote around that I can use while hunting for the one that I misplaced. I have not had a situation where I misplaced both remotes... yet...

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I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

> Most people who aren't somewhat tech savvy just will give up

Ugh. I hated the thing 'cause it was non-intuitive to learn initially and required a level of precision in operation that's just ridiculous relative to its primary function. When my aging mother (RIP) moved in with me, she could not use it at all due to declining fine motor control.

Now every TV I own has a Roku built-in and I can't imagine ever going back. All I want my TVs to do is launch Plex and Sling and let the kids hook up whichever gaming console is trendy. They get the job done with remotes that are simple, intuitive, cheap to replace, and I don't have to tutor anyone in how to use the damned things.

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Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned.

Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later.

You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that.

But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of critical for any Smart TV accessory.

I called Apple Support about it, and they literally said "if you want your money back you'll have to sue us" and hanged up.

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They also redesigned the remote so that it's not a gigantic pain in the ass.

Kinda looks like the old remotes to me. Not that I'm complaining. Anyone have a theory why it's bigger?

The current remote buries itself in the couch at the first available opportunity.

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I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I dropped my remote the first night I had my Apple TV 4K and shattered the glass on it. Good riddance.
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