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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by thu2111 »

b0afc375b5 wrote: post #162
martin1975 wrote: post #87

It's amazing how disconnected from reality Susan is... I don't think she even knows it. YouTube is probably the poster child for censorship in the context of genuinely free (1A-protected) speech. I have no idea how this self-stroking "award" can be taken seriously by those who actually monitor freedom of speech (excluding porn, which I don't consider 'speech').

Not surprising considering YouTube Rewind (2018) currently has a like / dislike of 3 million / 19 million. What's surprising is they haven't disabled comments for that video. Kudos to them I guess.

Honestly I wonder if they even noticed. Based on reading comments under op-eds in newspapers I don't believe the executive or media class actually ever look at prole-feed like comments and like counts. The only YouTubers who might have noticed this don't have the power to yank videos and comments, not are they going to point them out to Wojcicki.

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Post by Mizza »

userbinator wrote: post #129
readams wrote: post #111

I think people here are fundamentally misunderstanding what happened here. There is a nonprofit, the "Freedom Forum Institute" that awarded this award. Only the award ceremony was sponsored by YouTube. It's common practice for nonprofits to use awards like this as an opportunity to ask for donations, and for the company associated with that person to offer to sponsor the awards ceremony. I don't see anything to indic…

The name "Freedom Forum Institute" itself sounds suspiciously doublespeak-ish, and makes me think it's actually a pro-censorship organisation.

https://www.freedomforum.org/about/council-of-advisors/

CNN, Fox News, Charles Koch Institute, Comcast, a bunch of VC firms, and Susan Wojcicki's _own mother_.

A vulgar display of power.

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Post by staticelf »

Mizza wrote: post #202
userbinator wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The name "Freedom Forum Institute" itself sounds suspiciously doublespeak-ish, and makes me think it's actually a pro-censorship organisation.

https://www.freedomforum.org/about/council-of-advisors/ CNN, Fox News, Charles Koch Institute, Comcast, a bunch of VC firms, and Susan Wojcicki's _own mother_. A vulgar display of power.

Wow that is insane. They don't give a single f.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by anoncake »

ttt0 wrote: post #193
anoncake wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other people's genitals and reproductive organs look like is generally none of your business. In other words, their sex is irrelevant.

I'm not sure how to respond other that it's interesting how people switched from accusing everyone of being ignorant to demanding from them to be ignorant. Or was it always some kind of doublespeak? Not sure.

Respect for other's privacy has never been considered ignorance, even if it may match a dictionary definition.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by incrudible »

readams wrote: post #111

I think people here are fundamentally misunderstanding what happened here. There is a nonprofit, the "Freedom Forum Institute" that awarded this award. Only the award ceremony was sponsored by YouTube. It's common practice for nonprofits to use awards like this as an opportunity to ask for donations, and for the company associated with that person to offer to sponsor the awards ceremony. I don't see anything to indic…

You're right, it's really just an average non-profit money-waste, dedicated to congratulating mainstream news figures for defining what mainstream news is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Neuharth#Freedom_Forum

Giving the award to Susan, who fought valiantly to narrow the Overton window on YouTube to align better with that of mainstream news, makes perfect sense.

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Post by aryanoes »

camjohnson26 wrote: post #44
TameAntelope wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, but I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it, including the vast majority of the people who are supposedly "not particularly happy" with it. When people ask, "Why hasn't someone disrupted YouTube?" I think the more boring answer that keeps getting overlooked is that it still meets the expectations of enough users, and the dissatisfied constit…

Where are they going to go? It’s the only decently monetized platform.

Content creators _can_ go to other platforms like Twitch, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok etc; All these platforms allow for monetization

I think people often overstate just how locked into Youtube they are

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Post by anoncake »

ttt0 wrote: post #192
anoncake wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Find me an intersex person that can both bear a child and impregnate a woman. If male == can sire children and female == can bear children, then infertile people don't have a sex which is nonsense. > It does not disprove the general notion Yes, it does. Counterexamples do that. > You could be born with six fingers and that doesn't invalidate the fact that human species have 5 fingers at each hand. Yes, it would. Hu…

> If male == can sire children and female == can bear children, then infertile people don't have a sex which is nonsense. Your conclusion is nonsense, the premise is not. A broken computer is still in essence a computer, even if it can't actually do any computing as a result. > Yes, it would. Humans only usually have 5 fingers on each hand. But it isn't important to emphasize that there are 6-fingered humans because…

> Your conclusion is nonsense, the premise is not.

My conclusion is derived from the premise. Since it's nonsense so is the premise.

> A broken computer is still in essence a computer, even if it can't actually do any computing as a result.

An infertile woman is broken then?

> It's some kind of genetic disorder, an anomaly. With your standard you can't describe anything, as almost nothing is true 100% of the time.

Of course you can. 100% of non-broken computers can be used for computing -- the "non-broken" part is usually implied when talking about them. Same for lots of other categories. If the members of a category don't have any shared traits -- i.e. something that is true for all of them -- then what is it even useful for?

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Post by dash2 »

truth_ wrote: post #170
jollybean wrote: post #22

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

"Smart" and "intelligent" people are just people born in relative financial ease with enough time to focus on studies and very likely with parents in academia or similar fields who made their children aware of the inner workings of the fields. Physics PhD people are not people fallen from skies with a little extra brain. They just got the time, opportunity, and tips to be there. Same goes for other "smart" people. Th…

That's not what the science says: https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2017121

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by aryanoes »

martin1975 wrote: post #87

It's amazing how disconnected from reality Susan is... I don't think she even knows it. YouTube is probably the poster child for censorship in the context of genuinely free (1A-protected) speech. I have no idea how this self-stroking "award" can be taken seriously by those who actually monitor freedom of speech (excluding porn, which I don't consider 'speech').

Wait this isn't remotely true. Maybe from a specific American perspective that could be true but for the vast majority of people and countries Youtube has promoted free speech by allowing people to share their opinions and stories globally, especially in countries like China, Russia and the Philippines where dissent is punishable with jail time.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

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Post by aryanoes »

indymike wrote: post #94

It's always bad form to accept an award from your own company when you are CEO. You should be giving out the awards.

Hey just a small correction - It's not from her company, Youtube was a sponsor for the event not the ones running it
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