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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by herbst »

MawKKe wrote: post #200
rurp wrote: post #174

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Their treatment of Linux is pretty terrible, where they block you from even launching the app after a minor update until you go download and install the new .deb file. I've had many times where I went to jump onto a quick Discord chat only to have to stop and jump through those hoops.

To be fair, the client forces you to upgrade on windows too, although automatically. Which in windows-land is business as usual...

> Which in windows-land is business as usual...

Did i miss any recent innovations in the Windows space? Because no automated updates for your software is literally one of those things that make Windows so bad as an everyday desktop.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by throwaway3699 »

denkmoon wrote: post #310
steveklabnik wrote: post #277

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When you're playing games, it can mean that people can DDOS you, or otherwise just like, send bad stuff your way. Both of the solutions you have still disrupt the game, even if they do temporarily solve the issue.

If the people you're playing with DDOS you, you need to find new people to play with.

Games with matchmaking will permanently ban your account if you leave games too often. It's a risk: "CS:GO - Competitive Cooldowns and Bans - Steam Support" https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1203-WJC...

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by lacker »

exhaze wrote: post #339
lacker wrote: post #329

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okay oldie... when I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends while playing games with them you both needed a second phone line, so your 56k modems could use the other line to play Doom

Why would you subject yourself to that? Just have them come over and help you carry your heavy tower and even heavier CRT to LAN at their house, even if it’s a mile away (me and friends literally did this in Fremont, CA - though I believe it might have been a bit less than a mile)

Too hard to get a ride on a random weekday night before any of us could drive :D

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by herbst »

pell wrote: post #207
RobLach wrote: post #169

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Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.

> Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. From what I understand Slack's model is based on selling plans to teams and companies. Within that framework users are actually representing a real monthly recurring dollar value. I don't think Discord is anywhere close to this.

Slack is also thin, supports third party clients and is super easy to code for (Discord is too, but more hoops). And provides actual enterprise worthy support. From a professional POV deciding between both is a no brainer IMO

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by throwaway3699 »

sellyme wrote: post #300
uncletaco wrote: post #230

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and with this lightweightness the ability to customize the client more, maybe even create popouts to monitor multiple chats simultaneously or do one server per window.

Unfortunately software companies now view customisability as a bad thing, as their priority is profit, and that often involves making the client less usable. Discord wouldn't be able to periodically shift around the UI to make you accidentally click on the "Gift Nitro" button if they had to respect the layout you customised.

Why would moving the UI about result in 'accidental revenue'? We're not talking about ads here.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by herbst »

Karunamon wrote: post #227
chrononaut wrote: post #222

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I am not a heavy Discord user (so there might be options around this?), but when I have used it, it seems like every person on the server is in every channel. I feel like that would be absolute chaos at a workplace. Not to mention the unless notification customization that would have to take place.

That's the default - if you can see a channel you can read it and be pinged by it. Roles can restrict this, and you can configurably ping roles and remove the ability of regular users to do things like @here and @everyone. Discord's permission system is one of its killer features, IMO.

Thats only partially helpful. What if you get mentioned in channels you have no role for? What if a team needs a way to spin up private channels, so they need access to setting roles, wouldnt that open up the whole "role" system to anyone? What if you just want to join a channel to drop one line and leave, where did they put that role bot button thingy again to automatically assign roles?

Discords roles are really well done and make totally sense in a hirarchical chat system. However i don't see this being sensical in a professional (flatter) environment.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by herbst »

xyzzy21 wrote: post #308
DigitalSea wrote: post #296

As a 30 something, I have been using Discord for a few years now. Like many long-term users, I started out being a member of gaming-affiliated servers and now, I am a member of numerous technology and cryptocurrency/blockchain related servers as well as gaming (but not primarily). Many of the big Twitch streamers have Discord servers and special roles for paid subscribers as do many content creators on Youtube (espec…

Teams is surprising OK compared to WebEx or Skype or Facetime these days. I ever run Teams on my Mac just fine. So I guess YMMV but it's been fine. Discord hasn't grabbed me (but I can't play any video games without getting motion sickness so there's that).

I read there is a Teams client for Linux. And it works kinda well too.

Is this really the year of the linux desktop? But really, what a weird time to live in. Native (working) linux clients from Microsoft?

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by sircastor »

fish45 wrote: post #77

Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

A discord chat got me through one of my very difficult classes in university. I think without it I probably would have passed, but probably wouldn’t have understood the material half as well.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

blibble wrote: post #361
dharmab wrote: post #292

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> Why would you install the desktop app? In-game push-to-talk requires a desktop app.

would seem to be easy enough to hack up a minimal browser extension to support that chrome extensions can register global hotkeys

Yeah... Do not use the already existing wheels fiddle your own shitty wheels

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by herbst »

vkou wrote: post #32
krzepah wrote: post #10

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Microsoft has trouble with UI design and it only got worse. Think about the "help" buttons that are on win system preferences, instead of directing you to the option they send you to google or bing. It's ridiculous.

IF you want a really ridicilous example of Microsoft's inability to deal with UX, try changing literally anything that has to do with sound in Windows, and tell me how many separate sound-related configuration applications there are, and what are the paths to opening them. Then, ask someone who never used Windows XP to explain to you what each of those configuration applications is responsible for. (So they won't be…

Its not only the sound thing. Its so weird to me how i still am able to find most options on a modern Windows computer even thought i stopped back with XP. And not because its so intuitive, but because it never really changed at all, just added more layers over layers.
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