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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by blibble »

dharmab wrote: post #292
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #275

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Why would you install the desktop app? Isn't it Electron anyways, so aren't you basically running the same thing as you would in the browser, except now you've replaced the exceptionally well sandboxed, trusted browser with an outdated, unsandboxed browser and have given an app that doesn't need this access to your entire system?

> Why would you install the desktop app? In-game push-to-talk requires a desktop app.

would seem to be easy enough to hack up a minimal browser extension to support that

chrome extensions can register global hotkeys

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by vehementi »

joshmn wrote: post #89

It's crazy to me to think how TeamSpeak and Ventrilo had more than a decade to iterate and never came up with something like Discord. Xfire came close multiple times, but never got the voice part right, though for the time the client was acceptable. Granted, the server model was very different for TS and Vent (more so the latter), but it was normal then. Kudos to the Discord team on making a solid product.

They are desktop clients -- iterating from there to a fully self hosted thing, when IRC already exists, isn't really an obvious path for them. I am shocked it took so long for someone to add voice to Slack though.

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Post by jfim »

paulmd wrote: post #325
jfim wrote: post #303

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As frustrating as it is, not a whole lot of people in the video game industry really care about that, and for those that do, they can't really do that much about it. Once a game is sold, there's not much of an incentive to keep it alive other than making sure it's moderately playable so that they manage to sell expansion packs or downloadable content. A hypothetical "someone might overflow a buffer and run arbitrary…

It’s pretty frustrating with games like TF2 that still generate significant amounts of revenue but can’t even get major security problems patched let alone basic bugs fixed. And I’m not talking about selling new copies, I’m talking about hundreds of millions of dollars a year in lootbox revenue.

Games like DotA 2 that still get attention from Valve have all kinds of broken things. Bots were endemic in certain MMR brackets for a while (might still be, no idea), and they were pretty straightforward to detect. Multiple kinds of griefing were pretty much ignored, reporting players didn't do anything for a while, and so on.

Even Rockstar had the issue about load times for GTA online, which had they even bothered to look into it, would've netted them dozens of millions of dollars.

Until there's something absolutely catastrophic like a worm that spreads through a popular online game and formats hard drives/mines bitcoin/transfers all the hats to third parties, the industry will keep on doing the same thing as usual with no care. I wish it was different, but it's not, unfortunately. I definitely understand your frustration though.

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Post by t3f »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #164
Jonovono wrote: post #110

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What do you feel is missing from Discord?

Day to day the thing I dislike most about discord is that I can't have multiple instances of it open, or pop-out a channel to its own window. I'm in a bunch of servers but there are 3 channels and a DM in particular that I would love to just park on the second monitor forever and always have visible.

I know it's been a few hours, but if you see this, look at the Discord PTB and Canary builds. I run all three (std) so I can keep a number of prime channels open. Hope that helps.

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Post by ironSkillet »

alphabetting wrote: post #331
tru3_power wrote: post #317

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The voice chat rooms reminds me exactly of this program called Ventrillo or “vent” as we used to call it back when I was in high school. I’m officially old! https://www.ventrilo.com/

there's some incredible vent trolling content on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AkIfgioA4

Wow, that was some wholesome laughter. Brought me back to my high school and college days goofing around on vent.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by luckman212 »

lacker wrote: post #329
tru3_power wrote: post #317

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The voice chat rooms reminds me exactly of this program called Ventrillo or “vent” as we used to call it back when I was in high school. I’m officially old! https://www.ventrilo.com/

okay oldie... when I was in high school if you wanted to talk to your friends while playing games with them you both needed a second phone line, so your 56k modems could use the other line to play Doom

My first modem was 1200 baud. I remember looking with a jealous eye at my friends USRobotics Courier HST, with its awesome looks and blazing 14.4k speeds. I believe it set him back around $1,200 1989 dollars, or about $2,600 in today's terms. He could download a compressed 1.44MB floppy disk image with the latest Leisure Suit Larry game from one of several exclusive pirate BBS'es in just around 15 minutes (as long as mom didn't pick up the phone). Good times.

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Post by lanstin »

xyzzy21 wrote: post #308
DigitalSea wrote: post #296

As a 30 something, I have been using Discord for a few years now. Like many long-term users, I started out being a member of gaming-affiliated servers and now, I am a member of numerous technology and cryptocurrency/blockchain related servers as well as gaming (but not primarily). Many of the big Twitch streamers have Discord servers and special roles for paid subscribers as do many content creators on Youtube (espec…

Teams is surprising OK compared to WebEx or Skype or Facetime these days. I ever run Teams on my Mac just fine. So I guess YMMV but it's been fine. Discord hasn't grabbed me (but I can't play any video games without getting motion sickness so there's that).

Yeah I hated Webex till they forced my company to switch to Teams. I can’t get video on my phone, can’t dial surprisingly often, and have to exit the application after every meeting.

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Post by TeeMassive »

tru3_power wrote: post #317
fish45 wrote: post #77

Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

The voice chat rooms reminds me exactly of this program called Ventrillo or “vent” as we used to call it back when I was in high school. I’m officially old! https://www.ventrilo.com/

pff in my days we used MSN messenger for friends and IRC for girls

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Post by steveklabnik »

ognarb wrote: post #287
steveklabnik wrote: post #278

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For me: per server avatars and/or usernames. Or even some sort of straight-up multi-account support. Being able to choose a display name upon joining a server, rather than after, would be a great start.

You can have a peer room username and avatar in Matrix. It's just a very hidden feature.

Doesn't help me as a Discord user though. (I do use Matrix too, but only have one logical identity there so it's not a big deal to me.)
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