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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by rconti »

ihuman wrote: post #290
rconti wrote: post #271

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How do I know which I have? I just bought an XBox One controller to use with my gaming PC, but I'm not much of a gamer (hence why I never had one before). It came with a dongle which I assume is RF, which I prefer to Bluetooth on Windows. I'm wondering if my controller ALSO supports bluetooth? Or if it's either/or?

All of them work with the MS-specific protocol, but only some work with Bluetooth. The top of the controllers look different https://i.imgur.com/i9490os.png

Great, thanks for the tip. Looks like mine supports bluetooth. Subtle differences!

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Post by grupthink »

quickthrowman wrote: post #144
taylortbb wrote: post #134

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I think if one is going to always use their phone, then they probably bought a Chromecast at 1/4 the price. Unless they have a really strong attachment to the Apple ecosystem.

What? I have an iPhone and an Apple TV, I use my phone as the remote 99% of the time, mostly because I always have my phone on me. I bought an Apple TV because it’s the only device that doesn’t sell user data, nothing to do with how it is controlled. The touch remote is pretty crap for actual use, nice to see they’re going back to buttons.

> I bought an Apple TV because it's the only device that doesn't sell user data

You may want to double check that statement and reset your "Apple Advertising ID".

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Post by yarcob »

theluketaylor wrote: post #228
ksec wrote: post #84

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>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

Apple made a huge error not buying Eero and making AppleTV and HomePod devices into zero effort mesh points. They got out of the router business just a couple years too early since it was fully commoditized at the time, but the mesh revolution was just around the corner with a whole new market to conqueror. Letting Amazon get Eero is one of the few consumer facing misses Apple has made in the last few years (the keyb…

TBH I think mesh routers are overhyped garbage. They don't work well, and pollute the spectrum, and are a really poor substitute for cables.

The only reason why they sell well is because people will buy anything as long as they don't need to lay cables.

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Post by randyrand »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #317
minhazm wrote: post #295

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It's possible it's not powerful enough for a 4K tv if that's what you have. The Switch does 720p, or 1080p when docked. 4X the resolution is a big difference.

Not in 2D it isn't. Sliding some 2D textures around a 4k screen should be easy for any GPU from the last 2 decades. Problem is likely the apps do silly things like (I'm guessing) load 8k textures and draw them in a tiny box, and then try to load 100 of these boxes at once every time you thpe a character in the search box. Just guessing based on blog post deconstructions of modern games and apps I've seen.

memory bandwidth becomes a big concern at 4k.

it’s not just bad programming sometimes.

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Post by tommit »

nikisweeting wrote: post #316
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It should be built-in. Apple has this bizarre blind-spot where they will not ever launch anything if it doesn't have 100% UX, when sometimes, actually a 98% UX is pretty damn useful. I mean, the remote has a touch pad! I'm not arguing they should have no lower limit on UX quality (lke Android), it's just, it should be slightly, slightly lower. And just to avoid any third party apps solving this problems for users, th…

And yet, the Magic Mouse with a lightning port on the bottom exists :)

And every time someone points it out, another one points out that it was a conscious decision meant to push you to keep your mouse unplugged. Plus, charging it for a few minutes gives you hours of battery life again.

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Post by gurkendoktor »

tshaddox wrote: post #93
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Yeah, sounds like natural next step. But building a game console ecosystem turns out to be 10x harder than building the hardware itself.

That's true, but Apple already has a rich and successful game ecosystem on iPhones which are roughly the same hardware as the Apple TV. They have all the ingredients, and they've even made a visible attempt by offering Apple Arcade on the Apple TV. Wireless console controllers also work on Apple TV. It's just clear that the resources and effort haven't been made to get their Arcade developers to do the extra work to…

I had an Apple TV 4K and a couple of compatible gamepads, and I loved some of the early tvOS games! Rayman, Icycle (!!), Alto's Adventure, Badlands...

Then I tried Apple Arcade and it's just terrible. First, performance for all the 3D-heavy games is exactly what you would expect on a 4K screen with an iPhone 7 GPU. The iPhone XR GPU won't solve that.

But I'm also convinced that Apple fundamentally doesn't get games. A lot of the content was just interactive storytelling. With a few notable exceptions, I felt like a suit who never owned a console or Steam account had picked games for me based purely on the marketing materials.

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Post by bchjnes69 »

willseth wrote: post #283
rconti wrote: post #270

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Can you elaborate on that first point? I'm not a Homekit or security camera person. Almost every word of that statement blows my mind.

Sure. There are a handful of cameras that support a feature called HomeKit Secure Video (HSV). If you buy an HSV camera and you have an AppleTV, you can configure the camera to detect people, pets, and vehicles, set activity zones, and some other features. All the processing is done securely using the ATV's CPU, and anything you choose to record and save is encrypted and stored in iCloud. You do have to have a paid i…

Unifi Protect does object detection locally

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Post by tradertef »

tptacek wrote: post #122
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

Kids use the real remove in our house..

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Post by markphip »

tptacek wrote: post #156
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I use my phone often too, but you cannot control the volume from your phone so you need another remote too. My Samsung TV remote works pretty well as the Apple TV remote though too. The DirecTV remote control was also programmable and worked OK. They both just lack the Home button but you can use the Back button enough times to do without it.

You're the second person to say this, but for what it's worth: the iPhone remote app is literally the only way I control the volume on my AV system.

First, let me just say that it never even occurred to me that my iPhone volume would control the TV so I just never even tried it. I would have expected volume buttons to appear in the remote app.

That said, I just tried it and it does not seem to work for me in my setup. I just have a Samsung TV with the Apple TV connected. No other "AV system". The volume buttons do not seem to do anything with the TV. Now that I know it works in some situations I will start digging around.

The Apple TV remote controls the volume of the TV fine but I seem to recall that I programmed it for the power and volume of my TV when I set it up.

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