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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by louthy »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

Honestly, I love the remote, it’s so much better than every other remote I’ve used. I will admit that 2 is small issue (you can just say “go back 30 seconds” into the mic), but not enough for me to write the thing off. For most things I’d prefer to navigate with swipes than repeated click click click of buttons, like other remotes.

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Post by robbiep »

anderber wrote: post #238
tptacek wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I forgot all about text inputs! With the actual remote, You have to fumble with that letter-at-a-time selector. I’m even more surprised anyone bothers with the physical remote.

You can use a physical remote without looking at it and that's very hard to do with a smartphone. You also have to constantly unlock it to get back to the remote app if it shuts down. I love the Roku remote, it works so well and the physical buttons are very satisfying.

You can put it on your slidey down screen (where flashlight and sleep etc live) and then it’s swipe down, touch - no unlock necessary

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Post by rconti »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

It's utterly and inconsistent in use between apps. SOMETIMES clicking on the far right or far left side of the touchpad SOMETIMES jumps forward 15 seconds and sometimes pauses. And it's different between apps AND different each time you try it.

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Post by InvaderFizz »

dougbarrett wrote: post #182
MaxLeiter wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have an iPhone I absolutely love the Apple TV remote app. Feels like the remote design was made for the phone. I wish other apps or console also let you use your phone to type or control

I agree wholeheartedly, the only downside I would see is that volume cannot be controlled through the iPhone app if you're controlling the volume through the TV. When I have a bluetooth speaker paired to apple TV, i'm able to control that volume using the rocker switches on my phone, it's the weirdest thing. It feels like magic to have my TV turn on by a touch of my phone, and to also be able to control the TV when t…

My sound bar uses ARC connected to my TV. This means the physical Apple TV remote can turn the volume up and down. Same applies when using the Remote app. The volume rocker on my phone controls the sound bar volume.

Annoyingly, this does not apply to screen mirroring to the AppleTV.

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Post by astrange »

mastercheif wrote: post #148
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

The original touch AppleTV remote was probably ill-considered, but the accelerant of its demise was Apple ceasing to care if third-parties used native UIKit controls on AppleTV in a chase to get all of the channels and services to port their SmartTV applications over. For example, the original YouTube app on the AppleTV 4th generation was great. Navigating was a breeze with the native scroll momentum and sensitivity,…

The new remote is still touch based. There's just also a D-pad.

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Post by rconti »

RandallBrown wrote: post #110
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

If you click on the left or right side of the remote it will jump back or forward 10 seconds. Makes going back 30 seconds really easy.

Maybe half the time it works right, and it seems to depend on app as well.

The voice commands were nice "forward 60 seconds" but for some reason it seemed to have a bug where "forward two minutes" almost NEVER worked right on YoutubeTV. You could say almost any other time interval, but not 2 minutes.

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Post by marcosscriven »

anw wrote: post #90

I frequently travel, and bring my AppleTV with me to hook up to hotel TVs. It would be great if they made a way to support Web logins for WiFi. At the moment, I do t see a big change between this version and the one I own. If they added that feature, I’d buy it in a heartbeat so I could stop spoofing my AppleTV’s MAC on my laptop just to login to the hotel web portals.

I prefer just taking an HDMI adapter for my phone, as it’s more compact.

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Post by r00fus »

sjs382 wrote: post #147
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

Honestly, the old remote as-is is one of my least favorite remotes ever because of 1) the issues with accidental touches and 2) when you pick it up, you never know which way it should be pointed without looking. But add a little silicon sleeve that solves both issues, and it quickly became my favorite.

What sleeve did you buy?

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Post by rconti »

baby-yoda wrote: post #114

This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

FWIW the AppleTV "ads" I don't even process as ads, but my @#$@$# Fire Stick 4k pops up ads in the screensaver, and when I press "play" to resume my content, it starts playing some crap related to the ad. It's AWFUL.

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Post by rconti »

willseth wrote: post #138
goodcjw2 wrote: post #18

Honestly speaking, the problem with Apple TV is that chips like A12 are such a overkill for TV box use cases. I recently purchased a $30 Roku and find it has almost 99% of the features that an Apple TV would have (including airplay2). Yes, Apple TV would have better color, visual quality, etc, but that's way into the realm of dismissed return for the investment IMHO.

Depends on how you're leveraging their ecosystem. If you have HomeKit cameras, your Apple TV might also be running 24/7 realtime object detection for 5 simultaneous 1080p video streams. And your ROI is way off. The new auto-calibration feature brings an otherwise cost-prohibitive service into the consumer mainstream. Even if you happen to have one of the few higher end TVs that supports AutoCal, you still need $150 c…

Can you elaborate on that first point? I'm not a Homekit or security camera person. Almost every word of that statement blows my mind.
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