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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by hans-moleman »

fomine3 wrote: post #477
mort96 wrote: post #146

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They're not "legacy peripherals". Mice and keyboards are far from "legacy", and almost all of them come with USB A cables still. Having to add a flaky USB hub to your desktop just to plug in your keyboard is actually ridiculous. It makes sense on a laptop, but these desktops have _a lot_ of surface area on which they could put a few USB-A ports. EDIT: Though, Apple removing the USB-A ports from everything might be wh…

Astonishing fact: Logitech still doesn't release USB Type-C Unifying adapter.

Pretty sure that the USB dongle was a solution to have the mice work on all computers because at the time, pretty much all desktops had no Bluetooth connectivity. The next step for them is going all in on Bluetooth (at least for the casual user products).

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by fomine3 »

Toutouxc wrote: post #297
ankit70 wrote: post #178

Mac mini M1 with a good monitor and keyboard is the combo I would go for. Seems bit expensive for the base model.

The "good monitor" part is the problem, especially if you try to replicate the iMac feel (24" 4K+).

iMac's display has been fantastic for its price since Retina 5K. I wish other manufacturers sell such dedicated display at good price.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by billyhoffman »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #219
websites2323 wrote: post #130

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I’m going to go ahead and say if you haven’t gotten onboard with USB C by now you’re behind. It’s been half a decade since the USB A port went away on Mac. I know everyone has their legacy peripherals they love but... it’s time to move on.

Well, this is supposed to be a professional desktop machine. I don't want to run my work machine off of wifi that could randomly disconnect in the middle of meetings though. I know I'm not the only one. They could have spent the 3 dollars per machine it would cost them to add an ethernet jack, but instead they're going to have you spend $20 on some adapter dongle. As for USB-A, there are tons of peripherals still in…

> because some 20yo on HN says that USB-A is legacy

This is not helpful

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by [deleted] »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #219
websites2323 wrote: post #130

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I’m going to go ahead and say if you haven’t gotten onboard with USB C by now you’re behind. It’s been half a decade since the USB A port went away on Mac. I know everyone has their legacy peripherals they love but... it’s time to move on.

Well, this is supposed to be a professional desktop machine. I don't want to run my work machine off of wifi that could randomly disconnect in the middle of meetings though. I know I'm not the only one. They could have spent the 3 dollars per machine it would cost them to add an ethernet jack, but instead they're going to have you spend $20 on some adapter dongle. As for USB-A, there are tons of peripherals still in…

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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by orangecat »

alwillis wrote: post #465
orangecat wrote: post #372

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Not just the iMac Pro. They can't replace the Intel 27" iMac with the M1 because it would have worse multicore performance.

They can't replace the Intel 27" iMac with the M1 because it would have worse multicore performance. Based on all the benchmarks we've seen with existing M1 Macs, that's clearly not the case. The issue of being limited to only 16 MB is likely more the issue with replacing the 27-inch Intel iMac.

Based on all the benchmarks we've seen with existing M1 Macs, that's clearly not the case.

It's closer than I thought, but on Geekbench the 8-core i7 iMac is 10% faster than the M1 MacBook Pro, and the 10-core i9 is 25% faster (https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/imac-27-inch-retina-mid-2... and https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-13-inch-late-...).

The issue of being limited to only 16 MB is likely more the issue with replacing the 27-inch Intel iMac.

That's also important, yes.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by fomine3 »

hans-moleman wrote: post #481
fomine3 wrote: post #477

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Astonishing fact: Logitech still doesn't release USB Type-C Unifying adapter.

Pretty sure that the USB dongle was a solution to have the mice work on all computers because at the time, pretty much all desktops had no Bluetooth connectivity. The next step for them is going all in on Bluetooth (at least for the casual user products).

Probably. I still prefer dongle over BT because it's more stable, 100% work on UEFI/BIOS screen. I wish they keep it.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by bombcar »

_ph_ wrote: post #407
Tsiklon wrote: post #393

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I agree, I'd love video input on this machine. Incidentally, it's not well publicised, but Apple do offer an iMac on a VESA mount. https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-mac/imac-vesa

To bad it isn't just a conversion kit which would work with the default model - I learned about the VESA mount only after I had buyed my 27" iMac.

https://www.humancentric.com/products/vesa-adapter-for-apple...

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by karlshea »

websites2323 wrote: post #476
tachyonbeam wrote: post #219

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Well, this is supposed to be a professional desktop machine. I don't want to run my work machine off of wifi that could randomly disconnect in the middle of meetings though. I know I'm not the only one. They could have spent the 3 dollars per machine it would cost them to add an ethernet jack, but instead they're going to have you spend $20 on some adapter dongle. As for USB-A, there are tons of peripherals still in…

>I guess I need to buy yet more dongles, or throw them away and replace everything with USB-C peripherals because some 20yo on HN says that USB-A is legacy. The concern about dongles is so overblown. Let's take your examples each in turn. >Suppose I have a nice USB-A optical mouse You buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter and it lives on the mouse's USB-A connector, never being taken off, forever . And then... it's one piece.…

Or get one of the tiny USB C hubs with four USB A ports on them. A hub like I have now anyways, for an iMac that still has USB A ports, because I needed to plug in more shit.

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Post by neetrain »

aphextron wrote: post #416
systemvoltage wrote: post #354

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iPhone 11 feels way better in the hands than iPhone 12 with its new rectangular design. It's night and day. Presumably, Jony didn't take the lead with iPhone redesign.

This one's pretty contentious. I strongly prefer the flat edges. It's one of the main reasons I've held on to my SE for so long. The 12 is the first phone I've considered upgrading to in years.

Same. I bought iPad Pro 2018 for the same reason.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by Shadonototro »

kstrauser wrote: post #160
Shadonototro wrote: post #64

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macOS is not windows that OS and the apps over there are supper efficient it is the same story as iPhone vs Android phones, android always needed 2x more ram/battery than iPhones because the android ecosystem is bloated and slow, just like windows

Yeah, no. I use my Mac for software development, and Docker eats RAM for lunch. I absolutely 100% would not own an 8GB Mac today. I don't care how memory efficient a particular application is when the size of the data it's processing has grown enormously.

That is why they offer options, my grandmother doesn't need 32gb of ram to browse a recipe website or to watch netflix

8GB is to remind software developers that it is plenty enough

You don't want to be in the Android situation where everyone have 4gb-16gb ram in their phones, and as a result developers are bloating their apps with poor programming models, wich results in needs of bigger battery and bigger disk space, this is bad

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