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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by brailsafe »

aphextron wrote: post #280
codezero wrote: post #162

Look how big the escape key is on that keyboard, finally, revenge for the touch bar! I like the direction Apple is going here, I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year, and that's what I'll be waiting for. I'd like 27 inches of screen, at least 16GB of ram, but preferably 32, and that's about all I'd ask for. My current workstation is a 2013 27" iMac fully upgraded (fusion drive, 16…

>Look how big the escape key is on that keyboard, finally, revenge for the touch bar! Jony Ive's departure is the best thing to happen for Apple products in a decade. They're actually *gasp* listening to their users again. There's news that the new 16 inch M1 MBP's will even have physical function keys and more ports. I cannot wait.

While Ive was there, Macs had an extreme focus on being thin. Ive started at Apple on the candy iMac. Seems like the combination of both of these qualities

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Post by orangecat »

srik wrote: post #247
codezero wrote: post #162

Look how big the escape key is on that keyboard, finally, revenge for the touch bar! I like the direction Apple is going here, I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year, and that's what I'll be waiting for. I'd like 27 inches of screen, at least 16GB of ram, but preferably 32, and that's about all I'd ask for. My current workstation is a 2013 27" iMac fully upgraded (fusion drive, 16…

> I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year I wouldn’t be so sure. Unless their M1 strategy changes, I think they’ve temporarily gotten rid of iMac Pro entirely and are probably going to rely on the Mac Pro to fill that void instead.

Not just the iMac Pro. They can't replace the Intel 27" iMac with the M1 because it would have worse multicore performance.

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Post by furyg3 »

dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

The chin bar lines up with the ports (USB and power) on the back, and is probably where the speakers are.

So I think they prioritized thinness, which meant there was not enough room for screen+board+ports stacked, and they had to offset them. It's probable that the whole SoC and board are in the chin, given how small they are in the MacBook Air/Pro:

https://www.ifixit.com/News/46884/m1-macbook-teardowns-somet...

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Post by kmeisthax »

liminalsunset wrote: post #341
TameAntelope wrote: post #48

I'm super excited to see them figure out/be comfortable with a detached Touch ID. I've wanted my watch to be set as a Touch ID, or my wireless keyboard for my mac mini, and historically Apple seemed like they'd only allow physically attached Touch ID. With this product, it looks like they're providing a Touch ID keyboard that's wireless. I'm very curious how that works logistically, and if they'll make the keyboards…

Is them releasing a keyboard (detached and presumably replaceable) with a Touch ID sensor basically an admission that the iPhone Touch ID did NOT have to be permanently paired to the phone to keep it secure? Because in this case you can replace the keyboard and keep it secure, which contains the Touch ID sensor.

I would not be surprised if the sensor is permanently paired to the keyboard's controller chip, and then there's a load of security involved there to keep you from swapping the sensor on the keyboard itself.

Still, better to replace a $100 wireless keyboard than a $1200 computer.

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Post by driverdan »

jimjimjimjim wrote: post #331
happyjack wrote: post #304

I'm self employed (engineer, not comp-sci or coder bro) and as my company's revenue grows I am more and more tempted to "treat myself" and integrate more Apple products (I have an original SE phone) for the ease of use and having "corporate" Unix products in the arsenal. I see new products like these and instantly get excited. It looks so cool! It's thin, the screen is nice, looks like a great product! Maybe I'll qui…

I think it's worth it. I'm at the point where I think any non apple laptop is a waste of money. I own a software consultancy and charge about $700 a day for my time. My MacBook regularly has uptimes of over a month. Sometimes I work in an office with people using Windows machines. Sometimes their bluetooth earphones won't connect. The mic doesn't work on Zoom sometimes. Doesn't wake from sleep. Things like that. That…

> Sometimes their bluetooth earphones won't connect.

Macbooks are notorious for having BT issues. I've personally owned two MBPs that have had BT issues and know many friends who have also.

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Post by filleduchaos »

markdog12 wrote: post #352
formerly_proven wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't want more pixels, you want better pixels, optics and positioning.

Pretty sure you want more pixels, too. And if they announced a 4K webcam, it'd be amazing and everyone would be raving about it.

If they announced a 4K webcam I would immediately restrict it to 1080p. Why on earth would I want one?

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Post by spamizbad »

saagarjha wrote: post #346
spamizbad wrote: post #123

I cannot tell you how delighted I am that Apple is (slowly) moving away from its entirely clinical brushed-aluminum aesthetic. Can't wait for them to ship a pro machine that doesn't look like a bulky surgical instrument that needs to be dipped in a bath of hydrogen peroxide.

I mean it is still brushed aluminum is it not?

Ah but it's anodized into pretty colors now.

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Post by ibrarmalik »

bombcar wrote: post #282
heipei wrote: post #61

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It doesn't need to be but it is. What are you gonna do, bloat the case just to fit an Ethernet adapter? Also, what's wrong with it being in the charger? This is actually genius, this way only a single cable leads to the machine itself.

But why just Ethernet? Why not go further, make the power cord also USB-C (or even Thunderbolt) and have the power brick be a dock with USB and whatnot plugs on it?

USB-C devices are the kind that you plug and unplug constantly. Unlike the power cord or Ethernet.

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Post by filleduchaos »

aaomidi wrote: post #89
gregoriol wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I think 720p is the maximum need for a front facing camera on any device. What would you want a 4K front facing camera for? Most video-conferencing wont even allow more than 480p to preserve bandwidth.

Because the less pixelated it looks the more natural a conversation flows? Are you asking why is it important to have a good camera for online video conferencing? Look at all the guides that teach people how to use DSLRs as their webcams.

Plenty of very good DSLRs come at 1080p, exactly like this webcam. And they take better photos and videos than many sensors out there stuffed with unnecessary pixels.

Using resolution as a shorthand for actual image quality doesn't reflect the reality of how cameras work, never mind that full HD already pushes the limits of most people's streaming capabilities (both video encoding and bandwidth).

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Post by modeless »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #113
Ashanmaril wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the idea with MagSafe is that if someone trips over it, it won't yank the device to the ground, so that still applies to stationary devices. But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

Which makes you wonder: why the hell did they remove it from the MBP...only to re-introduce it to another product 3 years later? Do different product teams just not talk to each other at Apple?

I guess that they would have used USB-C here too, but the power supply is 143 watts and USB-C only supports 100. As long as they need to use a non-USB-C connector, they might as well make it a nice one.

I think the worse thing is that the iMac needs to ship with a USB-C to Lighting cable in order to charge the terrible Magic Mouse via its ridiculous bottom port that prevents use of the mouse while charging. And even the brand new magic keyboard still charges over Lighting. Lightning needs to die.

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