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Post by drusepth »

ricardobayes wrote: post #353
Version467 wrote: post #320

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Ohh, so that's why entering the passcode on my ipad feels so wonky. I guess this is some kind of legacy thing because the first iphone wouldn't have been able to handle it? Because this seems like an exceptionally bad decision, unless absolutely necessary for some reason.

Must be deep-rooted like the UI render refresh issue on Android. No matter how fast the hardware of an android phone, it will always will be a bit clunky/laggy. "Android has a difficult time dealing with the touch interface because it handles rendering "on the main thread with normal priority," as opposed to iOS, which treats UI rendering with real-time priority." https://appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/07/former_goo…

No matter how fast I type 3 + 6 + 9 into the stock Android calculator (on a Pixel 3a, 2 years old), I can't replicate keypresses getting ignored or laggy, input-blocking animations.

There's also zero lag scrolling through Google Photos. I don't have an iPhone to compare to, but I can't imagine how it could get any better.

If this is actually still a problem 10 years after the linked article was posted, I'd say the main problem is then instead the variety of processing in Android devices. I'd guess I'd see these issues on cheaper phones (maybe I can dig up one of my $79 burners to try with), but I doubt this problem exists on any phones of comparable pricing to iPhones.

Comparing iOS to "Android" might show some clunky/laggy UI in cheaper models, but comparing iOS to iPhone-priced Android phones most certainly won't (most of the time).

[*]: Though, obviously, I expect the sheer amount of variety in Android phones to still produce some expensive, low-power phones that would be an exception here.

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Post by efficax »

swiley wrote: post #109
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

This is something I've been saying: Try cloning and building even a moderate project from github on iSH on the latest iThing with Apple silicon and compare the same on a pinephone with a decade old budget SoC. One will get painfully hot and visibly tick through a large fraction of the battery while not letting you look at anything else or look away from the screen without killing the 10s of minutes long operation whi…

iSH is an x86 emulator.

But yes I would love it if the iPad Pro could just run macOS and i could actually use it as a software development environment, but also run iOS apps. I'd buy that device yesterday

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Post by wil421 »

SXX wrote: post #409
staticfloat wrote: post #366

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In case there's anyone out there with an M1 MBP that desperately wants multiple monitors, if you use a DisplayLink compatible external dock, something about the alternate driver that such a dock uses allows for multiple monitors. I personally use the Dell D6000 to run three external displays in addition to the built-in display off of my M1 MBP and it works quite well. You can see a list of DisplayLink docking station…

Any chance that you know of any good dock station with 3 HDMI ports? Since DP on my monitors is used by desktop GPU.

Good luck. Even with my old intel based Mac I struggled to find a decent dock. Lots of docks have DisplayPorts and hdmi or if you’re unlikely like myself you are forced to use USB C to hdmi dongles.

I haven’t bought a DisplayLink and probably won’t. Once an Arm based Mac comes out with dual monitor support I’m giving my wife the M1 Air and buying a new one.

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Post by wil421 »

deergomoo wrote: post #391
gordon_freeman wrote: post #313

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care to share hardware specs of your M1 Air?

Sure: 16” was 6-core i7, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 5500M 4GB GPU Air is M1 with the 8-core GPU, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD

Went from a late 2017 15” MBP i7 4core 16GB, RAM 512GB, Radeon Pro 560 with 4GB of GDDR5 to the same Air config. Unbelievable change.

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Post by MrFoof »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

This is my wait and see.

The fact that the 1TB and 2TB storage versions of the M1 iPad Pro have 16GB of memory is something. Plus Thunderbolt 4. It's an M1 iMac you can carry around.

If there isn't capability to easily use that hardware as a normal person (as in, creating bespoke apps), it'd all be for naught for me.

I'm due for an iPad upgrade, but I'm waiting until WWDC on June 7th before I decide on what I'll get. I won't make a bet and pay more for hardware I'll never be able to easily take advantage of. Though if an iPad Pro can let me do a lot more with a more advanced Window manager, it could just end up being a laptop that's not a laptop for when I don't want to sit at a desk in front of my workstation.

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Post by diffeomorphism »

no1youknowz wrote: post #128

Anyone remember the Ubuntu Edge? [0] Perhaps with todays announcement, a bit into the future we will see a new class of phone that unfolds into a tablet and even docks to a screen with accompanying magic keyboard and trackpad. I know, it's a real shame that I am probably dreaming. But Apple will probably never release a similar phone as it'll cannibalise one of the other products. Maybe someone can prod shuttleworth…

> Perhaps with todays announcement, a bit into the future we will see a new class of phone that unfolds into a tablet and even docks to a screen with accompanying magic keyboard and trackpad.

Or the motorola phones before that or the windows version of that or the nokia n900 or maruos or ubuntu touch or... . This has been tried many times before, so I am skeptical that just "a bit into the future" will finally be the time.

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Post by snalty »

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #330
crazygringo wrote: post #60

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Seriously. The thing that still bites me the most is that "Share" functionality of files continues to be broken in certain apps. For example, I frequently need to save a PDF from my Google Drive app either to my local Files or the Books app. But both those options are just... missing from the iOS share sheet, even though Acrobat is there. So I have to share to Acrobat, then share to Files or Books from within Acrobat…

the file management in iPadOS is a POS. It wasn't even closer to MacOS Finder level. It still feel like juiced-up iOS without expanding functionalities. Apple needs to provide an official way to easily transfer file without using iTune & iCloud. Yes, there is unofficial way (VLC) of doing this but it is cumbersome and iPad Files & other apps will not see those files at all. I understand why Apple does this to prevent…

My specific use case but I have my NAS mounted on the iPad files app and use that to transfer files.

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Post by walterbell »

clairity wrote: post #148
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Have never noticed this, but I have "Reduce Motion" enabled in Accessibility settings.

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Post by agent_simon »

clairity wrote: post #148
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

This and super annoying "app pasted from app" notification at random places omg..

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Post by calf »

camillomiller wrote: post #315
jshen wrote: post #241

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I hear this argument a lot, but I don't buy it. Let's flip it around, 99% of people will want to do something with their computer that will turn out to be a giant pain in the ass with an ipad compared to a mac or windows laptop. If you had a friend/relative that didn't have much money, and was asking you for advice about which "computer" to get and they can only have one. Would you recommend an ipad? There is no chan…

No, and you know what, neither would Apple, otherwise they wouldn't offer M1 Macs. The mistake is that everyone thinks Apple wants its product to be everything, just because their marketing tends to encompass and emphasize bold claims of universality. The reality is that Apple knows pretty well its segmentation. The Pro in the iPad Pro is the same Pro of the iPhone, it simply doesn't mean what the average hackernews…

I've always desired an iPad Pro for displaying PDFs of piano sheet music while practicing, because it's light enough to not damage the piano stand, and has a high resolution display. But then I realize the iPad Pro is kind of overkill if I don't intend to use it for anything else. Can you recommend a cheaper alternative? Maybe one of those e-paper things, or some other light tablet?
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