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So what is Discord's path to profitability? They tried selling video games and closed the store not too long after launching it. Nitro/Server Boosts definitely don't come close to the cost of operation.
How do you know that? Why would it be expensive to run a glorified irc server network?
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Of course, but it seems fairly unlikely that the average gamer is running public-facing internet services.
There are some games that run peer to peer connections, and for those to work, they require inbound connections to work. As far as the security of the average game codebase is concerned, I'd say it's pretty terrible as nobody really audits these codebases for buffer overflows/RCEs.
Too bad Valve makes money now and not games, they can't even get a fix out after it's been disclosed for years.
https://twitter.com/the_secret_club/status/13812019496479047...
https://twitter.com/the_secret_club/status/13809601207257333...
https://twitter.com/the_secret_club/status/13808687591292969...
Titanfall (the original) is another one (also Source Engine underneath but rewritten by Respawn/EA), a salty hacker who was mad he was getting rekt has been taking down the multiplayer service off and on for years now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfall/comments/d10ori/tales_fro...
Last I heard he was starting to hit Titanfall 2 xbox servers too (since nothing has been done after years attacking the first one, why wouldn't he escalate it further?) and Respawn just don't care, they're done with it, they make piles of money from Apex now and don't care about supporting their older stuff.
https://mp1st.com/news/titanfall-2-servers-down-due-to-ddos-...
Given the clientele of this website, hoping a little name-and-shame might bring some attention to the issues...
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He wasn't talking about mass data collection used to sell advertising, he was talking about a the admin of a server with maybe a dozen users having access to his IP, which potentially could be used for DDOS or geolocation. The kind of 'data collection' which could have visible impacts upon his life.
Or someone with knowledge could port scan you and actually attack you to gain a foothold in your network.
The risk of personal identification due to IP I can buy into; the risk that your already public IP may be exposed to a do-bad-criminal who wants to exploit you via Discord.. feels no more dangerous than having a vulnerable computer connected, anyway.
Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…
> Teamspeak, which has other problems like server admins viewing the IP addresses of other users in the server, if that counts
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Haha love how people have rediscovered the functionality and joys of IRC and the like!
Totally... If you enjoy the text/irc aspect, I welcome you to check out https://sqwok.im , a new realtime public discussion site very much inspired by growing up using aol chat/irc/icq/aim and others. I think we live at an amazing juncture of technology and ideas, where excellent communication software like irc that was always limited by it's own access requirements (install something, client, server, huh?), can now…
It's crazy to me to think how TeamSpeak and Ventrilo had more than a decade to iterate and never came up with something like Discord. Xfire came close multiple times, but never got the voice part right, though for the time the client was acceptable. Granted, the server model was very different for TS and Vent (more so the latter), but it was normal then. Kudos to the Discord team on making a solid product.
Teamspeak though, yeah, I'm surprised it didn't try to integrate streaming into its mechanism.
Mumble is still alive and well, and very functional for audio-sharing. Nothing in the way of video or streaming, though.
Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…
> Teamspeak, which has other problems like server admins viewing the IP addresses of other users in the server, if that counts
Trust is always important for these things, regardless of the platform. Discord didn't even have my email address for the four first four years I used it
I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.
Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.
> The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.
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They use(d) Elixir (based on Erlang VM) [1]. WhatsApp apparently considered Erlang to be one of the reasons why they could serve such a massive userbase with a tiny team [2], which I guess is a tech advantage. In any case, I enjoyed reading Discord's tech blogs on Elixir. [1] https://blog.discord.com/tagged/erlang [2] https://www.wired.com/2015/09/whatsapp-serves-900-million-us... EDIT: added reference and clarified…
https://discord.com/jobs/4959585002 mentions 'Rust or Elixir'. Frustratingly, for the longest time, they were 'San Fran or bust' in their hiring, which seemed like an odd thing for a company supposedly enabling communication. Guess the pandemic finally forced them to start looking for remote workers. Are they one of the first Elixir shops to IPO?
My guess would be pagerduty is the first?
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Totally... If you enjoy the text/irc aspect, I welcome you to check out https://sqwok.im , a new realtime public discussion site very much inspired by growing up using aol chat/irc/icq/aim and others. I think we live at an amazing juncture of technology and ideas, where excellent communication software like irc that was always limited by it's own access requirements (install something, client, server, huh?), can now…
Or, if you enjoy the text/irc aspect, irc is still very much a thing!
I'm on freenode daily :D