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Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by ripdog »

Topgamer7 wrote: post #198
ripdog wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He wasn't talking about mass data collection used to sell advertising, he was talking about a the admin of a server with maybe a dozen users having access to his IP, which potentially could be used for DDOS or geolocation. The kind of 'data collection' which could have visible impacts upon his life.

Or someone with knowledge could port scan you and actually attack you to gain a foothold in your network.

Of course, but it seems fairly unlikely that the average gamer is running public-facing internet services.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by sascha_sl »

ripdog wrote: post #186
superkuh wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The employees and their contractors and related at Discord corporate can see your IP address too and much more. Luckily it won't be Microsoft owning it as they could correlate against their software empire too. But Discord does have significant profit motive to collect information about you. In fact, their entire proprietary protocol, client, and restriction of clients is based around ensuring this.

He wasn't talking about mass data collection used to sell advertising, he was talking about a the admin of a server with maybe a dozen users having access to his IP, which potentially could be used for DDOS or geolocation. The kind of 'data collection' which could have visible impacts upon his life.

Discord has the same issue, essentially everyone who works in a somewhat technical role has access to their moderation tools that have zero auditing and reports of abuse (reading people's DMs "as a joke") are not uncommon.

Discord also refuses to delete any data you give them. Deleting a Discord account sets a lockout flag, changes the nickname to "Deleted User" and resets the avatar to default. That's it. They don't even bother setting the user ID on your messages to something common, to a bot (and anyone who turns on developer mode) all your messages still contain your Discord ID.

I also learned from personal experience that they ignore any requests for deleting data coming in via GDPR. These people need to get slapped in a lawsuit.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by gfodor »

fish45 wrote: post #77

Speaking as an 18 y.o. doing my first year college online, I wouldn't have made it through quarantine without Discord. I've a server with my high school friends and since Discord lowers the barrier to join a voice call so much it's super chill to just hop in a channel when doing homework or playing a game or whatever else, and anyone else who's free can join. I really wish there were competition, but there's nothing…

You might like what I am working on - it’s aiming to be Discord + Minecraft: https://jel.app

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #191
RobLach wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.

Discord needs threads before I would even consider using it as a slack replacement.

Threads and the also send to channel are such a hack. It's much better to let conversations flow naturally.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by pkulak »

kevincox wrote: post #148
lbotos wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - No included audio/video calls. You have to link them manually and use a third-party stack, such as Jitsi To be explicit, no group audio/video. I run my own Matrix server for my partner and I and it uses webRTC based audio out of the box for 1:1 calls which we use every day, and sometimes video. No Jitsi enabled in my config. (I only share this so other readers can gauge if Matrix can meet their needs.)

It is also worth noting that the WebRTC calls are E2E encrypted and look fantastic as they are often peer-to-peer so you can get an amazing connection if you have the bandwidth available.

I'm blown away by the audio and video quality of my Matrix calls. I always thought it was because, as I run my own server, there's no bandwidth limit, but I hadn't considered the whole peer-to-peer thing.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by beams_of_light »

etempleton wrote: post #127

I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.

I wish my workplace could use Discord instead of Teams. The drop-in voice channels would be so handy.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by pell »

RobLach wrote: post #169
etempleton wrote: post #127

I just don’t see what Discord’s path towards profitability is. Are they going to try to start an online store again? Sell enough Nitro subs? I think they are playing hard ball for a better acquisition deal, but they risk being irrelevant before ever getting a better deal.

Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.

> Discord has 14x more active users than Slack.

From what I understand Slack's model is based on selling plans to teams and companies. Within that framework users are actually representing a real monthly recurring dollar value. I don't think Discord is anywhere close to this.

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by Rapzid »

selimthegrim wrote: post #137
Ombudsman wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Microsoft is smarter than that, look at Github for example, people have largely forgotten it's owned by MSFT. They would have left Discord as a gaming platform and used it's tech in Teams instead. Teams is so behind Discord in all areas except video quality.

Has there been an exodus of talent from Github if they are leveling salaries?

Probably an influx of talent. They suddenly started shipping stuff after the acquisition..

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by WorldMaker »

Varriount wrote: post #28
xevrem wrote: post #12

so.... Discord will be a hellscape in 3-5 years as its inevitably destroyed by corporate greed?

What would the outlook be if Discord was bought by Microsoft?

Deeper Xbox integration, probably. Microsoft knows the writing is on the wall that Xbox Party Chat usage is way down and a lot of it has been replaced by gamers with Discord.

They know it so well the new Xbox Wireless Headset essentially has a "Discord feature" though obviously not named or marketed directly as that. (It supports dual pairing with a bluetooth phone for "phone calls over game audio", but everyone I know got the message between lines that it supports Discord chat, and were talking about the headset precisely because of that feature.)

Re: Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft

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Post by poyu »

pell wrote: post #207
RobLach wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note: Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. Discord has a technology and feature superset over Slack. The Discord audience is becoming the professional audience just about right now.

> Discord has 14x more active users than Slack. From what I understand Slack's model is based on selling plans to teams and companies. Within that framework users are actually representing a real monthly recurring dollar value. I don't think Discord is anywhere close to this.

On top of that, they have things that are considered "Enterprise Ready"

https://slack.com/enterprise

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