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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by billyhoffman » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:55 PM UTC

incrudible wrote: post #136

Toutouxc wrote: post #79

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You will not like the answer if you have to ask, but here goes: It's beautiful.

> It's beautiful. ...yet it somehow still has that huge pointless "chin" at the bottom. I don't think that's beautiful. I guess it's "iconic", like the ugly notch on the newer iPhones. I'd rather have the thing a bit thicker instead, because 99% of the time I'm not looking at it from the side .

In the video, they show an exploded view. The "chin" is where all the SoC, cooling, and speakers are. The screen is just the screen

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by recuter » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #401

codezero wrote: post #162

Look how big the escape key is on that keyboard, finally, revenge for the touch bar! I like the direction Apple is going here, I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year, and that's what I'll be waiting for. I'd like 27 inches of screen, at least 16GB of ram, but preferably 32, and that's about all I'd ask for. My current workstation is a 2013 27" iMac fully upgraded (fusion drive, 16…

But the emoji key! What kind of world is this!

TIL HackerNews blissfully strips emoji from comments (whilst I was trying to make a low effort joke response to this)

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by neurostimulant » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:00 PM UTC

NaN1352 wrote: post #291

Do you think we will be able to install Win10 at some point? (a la Bootcamp, mainly to play some Steam games). Did Apple comment on this?

They did say it's up to Microsoft: https://www.zdnet.com/article/top-apple-exec-native-windows-...

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by filleduchaos » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:02 PM UTC

slantyyz wrote: post #422

filleduchaos wrote: post #376

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If they announced a 4K webcam I would immediately restrict it to 1080p. Why on earth would I want one?

A lot of Youtubers like using 4K (or higher) cameras because the resulting video looks better at 1080p. I would think the M1s are more than fast enough to do a nice job downsampling in real time from 4K to 1080p. Also, the M1s are fast enough to be someone's main computer for a long, long time. 4K future proofs your system a little more.

> A lot of Youtubers like using 4K (or higher) cameras because the resulting video looks better at 1080p.

A lot of Youtubers are not streaming, which is what most people use their laptop webcams for.

> I would think the M1s are more than fast enough to do a nice job downsampling in real time from 4K to 1080p.

Just video encoding a 1080p stream in itself is already extremely intensive even for high-end CPUs. Especially considering that I (like most users) am simply trying to take a call, and have actual work already going on that I want my processor to spend its time on.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by tehnub » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #255

insert_coin wrote: post #109

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But you have a “charger” on a device without a battery. Power bricks are the most inelegant solution to a problem ever. Can’t think of a clever design to accommodate the features we want? shove it on a box and put it to the side. Lazy.

Yes. Or I wish the Charger is small enough they are like the MacBook Pro where it plugs directly to the wall. And not something that is now hanging / sitting in between of my Cable to the wall.

I prefer the plug to not be on the charger itself. When you plug it into a power strip, it always blocks one or two other outlets.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by kjander79 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:07 PM UTC

MikeCapone wrote: post #391

kjander79 wrote: post #389

Am I reading this right, that these will max out on 8Gb memory, and not even receive the 16Gb of the MBP?

You can configure them to 16gb (as per Apple's website).

edited: Pointed out elsewhere it does note 16GB configurable.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by cptskippy » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

walrus01 wrote: post #300

cptskippy wrote: post #257

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What about the board itself would limit performance? They're all using the same chip.

If it's exactly the same board and layout, an ultra slim laptop motherboard will be designed for different thermal limits than a desktop board. Also a laptop board will have its shape and orientation optimized for a very thin heatpipe + flat blower cooling system, something in a desktop might be different. Take for instance the same CPU used in a gaming laptop or in an Intel NUC/tiny box shaped PC, the heatsink/fan a…

But we're talking about Mac's, these are all design to be svelte. The Air has passive cooling, the rest have minimal cooling.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by icedchai » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:14 PM UTC

vmception wrote: post #81

Can someone explain the 8gb obsession (edit: 16gb is possible, but why not more) ? is there a real limitation with this architecture or are they just making a business decision so they can sell multiple models over 2-3 years instead of creating what the market wants immediately

8 gigs RAM is a bit of a joke for 2021. My 2014 iMac came with the same amount of memory. At least I could upgrade it though.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:18 PM UTC

aaomidi wrote: post #321

gregoriol wrote: post #131

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If you are a professional video maker, you'll anyway have something better than the internal mic and camera. Not just for quality but also for position and practicality of moving it. We are talking here about the average person's use-case

Sure and the average person can benefit from a higher resolution camera.

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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by bern4444 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 10:23 PM UTC

matsemann wrote: post #52

Why does a stationary computer need to be so thin that they can't fit an ethernet port and have to place it in the charger?

I think it makes sense. The power cable is usually fixed and not moved for a desktop computer. The same holds true for an ethernet cable. It's fixed and plugged into the wall.

So both ports that are used for fixed cords plug and that plug into a wall are located at the same spot.

The ports on the computer itself are for devices that you might plug and unplug on a daily basis. Peripherals, charging cables, USBs etc.

This makes a lot of sense the way its setup. Fixed cables are grouped and separated from "free floating" cables.

From my own experience, most people end up using wifi anyway at home and in office regardless of the device type (desktop/laptop). This way the least likely to be used port is also separated from the device and also means that if you need to for whatever reason swap one iMac with another, a single plug into the new iMac will connect power and ethernet with no other setup necessary.