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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by tinus_hn »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

They aren’t ditching it, they took a large step in fixing these issues. It’s still a trackpad but with buttons on it.

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Post by wil421 »

rconti wrote: post #270
willseth wrote: post #138

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Depends on how you're leveraging their ecosystem. If you have HomeKit cameras, your Apple TV might also be running 24/7 realtime object detection for 5 simultaneous 1080p video streams. And your ROI is way off. The new auto-calibration feature brings an otherwise cost-prohibitive service into the consumer mainstream. Even if you happen to have one of the few higher end TVs that supports AutoCal, you still need $150 c…

Can you elaborate on that first point? I'm not a Homekit or security camera person. Almost every word of that statement blows my mind.

The AppleTV works as a sort of hub for HomeKit. They run some of the automation I have for different smart plugs. I assume it can do what OP said for HomeKit cameras. I use homebridge to enable HomeKit on devices that don’t support it so I’m not about native object detection.

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Post by willseth »

rconti wrote: post #270
willseth wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on how you're leveraging their ecosystem. If you have HomeKit cameras, your Apple TV might also be running 24/7 realtime object detection for 5 simultaneous 1080p video streams. And your ROI is way off. The new auto-calibration feature brings an otherwise cost-prohibitive service into the consumer mainstream. Even if you happen to have one of the few higher end TVs that supports AutoCal, you still need $150 c…

Can you elaborate on that first point? I'm not a Homekit or security camera person. Almost every word of that statement blows my mind.

Sure. There are a handful of cameras that support a feature called HomeKit Secure Video (HSV). If you buy an HSV camera and you have an AppleTV, you can configure the camera to detect people, pets, and vehicles, set activity zones, and some other features. All the processing is done securely using the ATV's CPU, and anything you choose to record and save is encrypted and stored in iCloud. You do have to have a paid iCloud account to record the streams.

This is a super slick feature that not only "just works," but AFAIK it's the only security system with object detection AI that doesn't do it on the vendor's servers. This saves incredible amount of upload bandwidth, since you are only storing the segments of video that trigger detection. Plus, no one else has the decryption key to your video.

Also, IIUC the HomePod and maybe even HomePod mini can act as HSV hubs as well.

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Post by leipert »

oivey wrote: post #30

The automatic color calibration looks be really nice. Most TVs are not well calibrated by default. I wish it would let you export the results to change the settings for all connected devices, but that’s probably too TV specific.

Wonder why they don’t offer the calibration on macOS. Would love to calibrate my external monitor.

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Post by glhaynes »

FredPret wrote: post #67
breals wrote: post #46

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The new Siri Remote will be available separately for $59, and is compatible with the previous-generation Apple TV 4K and Apple TV HD.

Best news ever. Fast-forwarding on the old remote has me flummoxed and my partner in stitches

I find it works great — on the 10% of attempts that I don't accidentally scrub back to the first minute of the movie.

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Post by zerocrates »

jolux wrote: post #129
tptacek wrote: post #128

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I'm not totally sure how it works (the only connection between my ATV and my AV system is HDMI) but adjusting the volume --- on my receiver --- works fine from the Apple TV iPhone remote.

It uses HDMI ARC but it's pretty flaky from the iPhone in my experience. Works more consistently with the remote itself. No idea why.

The device itself probably uses CEC to do volume control, which can be a bit of a crapshoot with all the different vendors involved.

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Post by FredPret »

glhaynes wrote: post #285
FredPret wrote: post #67

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Best news ever. Fast-forwarding on the old remote has me flummoxed and my partner in stitches

I find it works great — on the 10% of attempts that I don't accidentally scrub back to the first minute of the movie.

When I try it I end up summoning Beelzebub, Siri is screaming obscenities at me, we’ve skipped the episode we were watching, and my partner is crying with laughter

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Post by kentiko »

oivey wrote: post #30

The automatic color calibration looks be really nice. Most TVs are not well calibrated by default. I wish it would let you export the results to change the settings for all connected devices, but that’s probably too TV specific.

TV nowadays do a lot of "image enhancement" as they call it. Things like contrast and saturation boost to make TVs look "better" at the store. Calibrating a screen that dynamically messes with the colors seems impossible. Maybe Apple will ask the user to set the screen in a more passive mode to deal with that?

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Post by [deleted] »

cyxxon wrote: post #162
AlphaWeaver wrote: post #131

Something that might be being overlooked - it looks like this supports pairing Xbox One controllers that use Xbox Wireless! This is a different standard than Bluetooth and should enable everyone who has Xbox controllers to easily use them in Apple Arcade. Impressive!

That is a bit misleading: a lot of Xbox One wireless controllers work with Bluetooth, it seems Microsoft switched this during the production run. I have one at home for use with my PC, I don't own an Xbox, and it works without any receiver. My old 360 controller needs the wireless receiver though, that is the old protocol (or maybe not the same protocol? Not sure...)

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Post by ihuman »

rconti wrote: post #271
crooked-v wrote: post #255

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All Xbox controllers from the release of the Xbox One S (2016) and later have Bluetooth included. I'm pretty sure the ATV doesn't have any support for the MS-specific protocol, just the Bluetooth functionality.

How do I know which I have? I just bought an XBox One controller to use with my gaming PC, but I'm not much of a gamer (hence why I never had one before). It came with a dongle which I assume is RF, which I prefer to Bluetooth on Windows. I'm wondering if my controller ALSO supports bluetooth? Or if it's either/or?

All of them work with the MS-specific protocol, but only some work with Bluetooth. The top of the controllers look different https://i.imgur.com/i9490os.png
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