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Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by adrr »

ksec wrote: post #84
ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

I actually attached a Tile to my remote because my one year likes to hide it.

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Post by dougbarrett »

MaxLeiter wrote: post #175
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

If you have an iPhone I absolutely love the Apple TV remote app. Feels like the remote design was made for the phone. I wish other apps or console also let you use your phone to type or control

I agree wholeheartedly, the only downside I would see is that volume cannot be controlled through the iPhone app if you're controlling the volume through the TV. When I have a bluetooth speaker paired to apple TV, i'm able to control that volume using the rocker switches on my phone, it's the weirdest thing.

It feels like magic to have my TV turn on by a touch of my phone, and to also be able to control the TV when the kids think they are sneaky by not giving me back the remote.

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Post by mihail_m »

josteink wrote: post #173
mihail_m wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great feature and kudos to Apple for bringing it to the previous generation of Apple TV. This feature will improve image quality without having to pay insane amounts for calibration.

> This is a great feature and kudos to Apple for bringing it to the previous generation of Apple TV. I can’t see that mentioned anywhere. Got any details on that? Do you need some app or update?

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-unveils-the-nex...

Go to the press release above, scroll down until the end, and refer to footnote 2. It is about calibration - it requires an iPhone with FaceID, IOS/tvOS 14.5 and is available as well for the 1st generation Apple TV 4K.

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Post by varenc »

jhickok wrote: post #159
ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

The only thing I care about is that it supports 4k at higher refresh rates.

The old ATV 4k model already supports 4k at 60fps. The only improvement is that it supports HDR 4k content at 60 fps.

From the old spec page [0]:

   H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile
   HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p
And the new spec page [1]:

   H.264/HEVC SDR video up to 2160p, 60 fps, Main/Main 10 profile
   HEVC Dolby Vision (Profile 5)/HDR10 (Main 10 profile) up to 2160p, 60 fps
[0] https://support.apple.com/kb/SP769?viewlocale=en_US&locale=e...

[1] https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/

Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by adamhearn »

volta83 wrote: post #168

Apple TV is the worst apple product i've ever owned. Last year, they released a software update that broke YouTube support for like 5-6 months, and once they "fixed" it, they immediately announced it would be removed 3 months later. You can still revert the software update, and YouTube works if you do that. But I'd rather have my money back and buy a different product instead. I consider "YouTube support" kind of cri…

Apple TV is the best apple product I've ever owned. The UI is simple and works well. Airplay consistently outperforms every other 'casting' system I have tried. I have tried all the major brands of smart TV as well as every major brand of set top box.

I have also installed many for clients. Not one client has called me and asked me how to do something on their Apple TV. However, I have received many calls asking for help with Roku devices.

Have you found something that you like better than the Apple TV?

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Post by ziml77 »

defaultname wrote: post #48
goodcjw2 wrote: post #18

Honestly speaking, the problem with Apple TV is that chips like A12 are such a overkill for TV box use cases. I recently purchased a $30 Roku and find it has almost 99% of the features that an Apple TV would have (including airplay2). Yes, Apple TV would have better color, visual quality, etc, but that's way into the realm of dismissed return for the investment IMHO.

I recently moved my Apple TV to another room (for Fitness+ use) so we started relying upon a Chromecast with Google TV. What a downgrade. It made me remember how horrid AV components often were, where multi-second delays, slow loading, horrid transitions, etc, were just normal. The Chromecast Google TV device has a 4 core, 1.9Ghz device, yet it seems extremely underpowered. Having a beefy processor in an AV device is…

The Nvidia Shield basically uses the same SoC as the Nintendo Switch. Yet somehow even though the chip is powerful enough to run 3D games, Android TV can't manage smooth 2D animations on it. As I said in another comment I switched to using the apps on my LG TV. That sluggishness was a huge reason why.

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Post by unfamiliar »

baby-yoda wrote: post #114

This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

Try using a Fire stick, it inserts literal ads. Same with my LG "smart" TV,it inserts ads down the side of its menu. The Apple TV is by far the lowest offender in this department.

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Post by powvans »

taylortbb wrote: post #134
tptacek wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

I think if one is going to always use their phone, then they probably bought a Chromecast at 1/4 the price. Unless they have a really strong attachment to the Apple ecosystem.

Or they have kids and the Apple TV remote is quickly lost or broken as it is both small and fragile!

I have multiple of both Apple TV and Chromecast and they both have their benefits. The babysitter can control the Apple TV with their phone. With the Chromecast they need their own Netflix/Prime. Not nearly as good. For my own personal use Chromecast is best.

Edit: and of course on my newer TV’s most services are available as apps.

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Post by nostromo »

baby-yoda wrote: post #114

This is by far the least “Apple” product IMO. I hate that I can’t remove stock apps and I hate that I’m being sold to every second I’m in the UI. It’s so blatant. I paid for the box - I just want to use it for AirPlay and a small selection of apps I download, that’s all. Yet Apple treats it as a giant digital billboard in our living rooms.

I get it, but it's still a million times better than the competition.

My Samsung TV showed me banner ads before I disconnected it from the internet.

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