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Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by claudiulodro »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #135
devoutsalsa wrote: post #94

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Not very related... The reason I canceled Spotify Account is because I couldn’t downvote songs in a playlist. The music suggestions for some artists were horrible, and I couldn’t opt out of them.

What's losing my interest more and more is that their music recommendations are terrible, rarely match my taste... And, uh, I wish there was an easier way for me to just browse music by category. I just want to see all the new releases under electronic music and browse through them quickly. I don't need to be spoon-fed things as part of "discover weekly". Also, the Spotify Chromecast integration is utter shit. It has…

The Every Noise at Once guy also has a project where it's a raw weekly dump of all the new Spotify releases sorted by categories: https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi?genre=edm&r...

That's what I use to get more in-depth than the tiny amount of new releases Spotify features in its official playlists.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by stjohnswarts »

cgriswald wrote: post #141
Lendal wrote: post #76

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No, but they could lose subscribers due to Podcasts. See, I pay for Spotify because of their playlists. Playlists have nothing to do with podcasts. I listen to my podcasts using a different app. Yet Spotify keeps throwing its podcasts in my face. Spotify is not good at podcasts. That's why I use a different app for that. I'm getting tired of scrolling past all the podcast spam in my Spotify UI, and yet Spotify provid…

They could lose them in the other direction as well. Unlike you, I don't mind podcasts being thrown at me. However, having come to enjoy a couple of the podcasts on offer, I'm not offered a way to subscribe to the pay versions of those podcasts, so I end up subscribing directly. Unfortunately, the Spotify app doesn't provide me a way to add my private RSS feeds from those subscriptions, so I spend much less time on S…

I doubt if spotify will ever add RSS capabilities.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by NopeNotToday »

tshaddox wrote: post #112
Lendal wrote: post #76

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No, but they could lose subscribers due to Podcasts. See, I pay for Spotify because of their playlists. Playlists have nothing to do with podcasts. I listen to my podcasts using a different app. Yet Spotify keeps throwing its podcasts in my face. Spotify is not good at podcasts. That's why I use a different app for that. I'm getting tired of scrolling past all the podcast spam in my Spotify UI, and yet Spotify provid…

I recently gave Spotify a try for about 8 months but just switched back to Apple Music. My reason for switching back had nothing to do with podcasts, it was simply Spotify's terrible interface that makes it impossible to just browse all the music in your library . But I had also started to notice podcasts infiltrating UI that used to be only music playlists. A few times I even mistakenly clicked on a podcast thinking…

I dont think Spotify cares about the 0.1% of users that bring their own MP3s. It's a shrinking market. The growth is all the people who never even heard of an EmPeaThree.

I think back when I ripped my 350+ CDs to FLAC. In retrospect, it wasn't worth it.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by coldacid »

I can't believe I didn't notice right away that this "article" is a native ad for Spotify. Ugh.

Meanwhile, the open podcast ecosystem keeps getting better instead of dying off like Spotify and Apple wish it would. [Podcast Index] and the Podcasting 2.0 ecosystem around it is helping keep podcasting free and open.

* https://podcastindex.org

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by nmz »

m000 wrote: post #47
prepend wrote: post #21

I don’t like Spotify’s player or their process for restricted access podcasts. “Free” isn’t free when it requires a special app. Podcasts using RSS was genius and a great “protocol” for distributing content that fit into the original web idea of information available anywhere. I hope Spotify loses and regular podcasts stick and thrive. I’m more worried about people like NPR requiring their own app x 1000.

I'm pretty sure that Spotify's API allows access to podcasts outside the official app. I'm already using software that can stream Spotify content to local devices that don't support Spotify. Creating an RSS feed is only an implementation detail. And I wouldn't discount the publishing and distribution part of making a podcast content available. Without Spotify or a similar platform, the burden of putting content onlin…

Disagree on this, like discord, third party apps are frowned upon. There is no youtube-dl for spotify (not a good one at least) so while I do agree that creators should not be burdened by the distribution aspect, spotify is ultimately vendor lock-in. while with itunes you can easily fetch the rss feed of their podcasts, such a thing is not possible with spotify.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by klondike_klive »

tmh88j wrote: post #48
StavrosK wrote: post #45

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I use Pocket Casts. I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable, but I haven't even felt the need to check. Plus, I don't like a monoculture.

>I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable Maybe I'm missing out on part of the experience. What else is there to do with a podcast other than download/stream and listen? - Thanks for all the tips. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts but I'll give it a shot.

I tweeted at the Pocketcasts team to recommend adding a feature that I would find useful (I think it was excluding "the" from alphabetised list of podcasts since it made titles clump together under "T"). They responded quickly and implemented it pretty soon afterwards. I was impressed.

I love the web player interface (although have found problems using a VPN) but the Android app has been a bit tricky to use, having to navigate to filters to find episodes I've downloaded.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by LatteLazy »

pixxel wrote: post #41
LatteLazy wrote: post #37

Aside from Joe Rogan (who's gone a bit barmy) I have no problem getting rss feeds for everything I want...

Barmy? I've not listened since his move to Spotify. What's happened?

He's been pretty far along the "Covid isn't a real problem", "I'm not getting vaccinated", you can treat it with honey and mustard and HydroChloroquine arc...

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by mdoms »

edgyquant wrote: post #168
rchaud wrote: post #90

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Joe Rogan will occasionally have guests that attract people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in common JRE topics. In my case, it was podcasts with Billy Corgan and Shirley Manson (of Smashing Pumpkins and Garbage, respectively). I enjoyed those episodes a lot, plus a few he has with comedians I find funny. But it wasn't enough to make me subscribe. I doubt there is any podcast that I consider indispensable enoug…

The only podcasts I listen religiously are the intelligence by the economist and revolutions by Mike Duncan. I can listen to the intelligence via the economist app and Revolutions is ending this year (and I get it through the standard podcast app on iOS.)

The Intelligence is available as a regular old podcast feed too - all Economist podcasts are.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by allenu »

zild3d wrote: post #106

Spotify also made podcast ads as terrible as TV/radio. I was never bothered by podcast ads since it was coming straight from the podcaster. E.g. Tim Ferriss - for the most part I trusted he actually supported the products. Comedians, the ad reads are often pretty funny Spotify instead interrupts the podcast whenever they want with "HEY! "

Yeah, it's really awful. Many podcasts I choose to listen to because the hosts have soothing voices and there isn't any annoying yelling, but when Spotify inserts the ads in there, it absolutely ruins the experience since the ads are so jarring when compared to the podcast itself.
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