Aside from Joe Rogan (who's gone a bit barmy) I have no problem getting rss feeds for everything I want...
Barmy? I've not listened since his move to Spotify. What's happened?
Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
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Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#42Joe who? Seriously, I think that there are a number of reasons why this won't pan out as predicted: - There aren't really any tent-pole, must listen podcasts. They thought Joe Rogan was one but I'm hearing a lot of people have stopped listening to him on Spotify (I have). - Spotify (and others) don't have the money to buy out the whole podcast ecosystem and many podcast makers I think would resist going Spotify exclu…
I'll admit I'm a podcast novice, but what player are you using and what does it offer beyond Spotify? I find, download, and play podcasts through Spotify without issues, and the few features I need (speed adjustment, offline access, and show notes/links) are all available on Spotify.
If there is a better way to listen, I'd love to hear about it.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#43This post is essentially a funding pitch for Spotify. I talks a lot about they are going to try and kill the open podcast ecosystem but no evidence that they are making any progress. The podcast ecosystem is very different from other media markets-- it started open, it grew up open, and people are actually willing to directly pay content producers either for bonus content, to avoid ad reads, or just to keep the train…
>to avoid ad reads Even without paying for podcasts, ad reads in podcasts are pretty much the most consumer-friendly form of advertising on the internet. There's no privacy invasion. The ads are pretty well targeted because podcast producers generally know and try to respect their audiences. And they can even be pretty funny and entertaining when hosts can stray a bit off-script.
Have you been listening to Harmontown or That Happens? The hosts literally do small improv bits for every ad.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#44This post is essentially a funding pitch for Spotify. I talks a lot about they are going to try and kill the open podcast ecosystem but no evidence that they are making any progress. The podcast ecosystem is very different from other media markets-- it started open, it grew up open, and people are actually willing to directly pay content producers either for bonus content, to avoid ad reads, or just to keep the train…
What Spotify is trying to do is called a roll-up. This is a well tread business tactic favored by aspiring monopolists and the strategy is simple: acquire most of the distribution in the space, then jack up the price. (In the podcast world, "distribution" equates to "listeners" and price equates to "Spotify's subscription and ad revenue.") The harm caused to both consumers and producers by a roll-up is well-documente…
So this is what Apple did with the app store.
Applications used to be distributed everywhere, but Apple tightly controlled the platform and crippled the web browser. They even prevented Flash and other runtimes so they would be the only way to get native control on the device.
They "rolled up" computing.
What scummy behavior.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#45Joe who? Seriously, I think that there are a number of reasons why this won't pan out as predicted: - There aren't really any tent-pole, must listen podcasts. They thought Joe Rogan was one but I'm hearing a lot of people have stopped listening to him on Spotify (I have). - Spotify (and others) don't have the money to buy out the whole podcast ecosystem and many podcast makers I think would resist going Spotify exclu…
I'll admit I'm a podcast novice, but what player are you using and what does it offer beyond Spotify? I find, download, and play podcasts through Spotify without issues, and the few features I need (speed adjustment, offline access, and show notes/links) are all available on Spotify. If there is a better way to listen, I'd love to hear about it.
I use Pocket Casts. I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable, but I haven't even felt the need to check.
Plus, I don't like a monoculture.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#46They might have a better chance if their podcast experience had even one competent engineer working on it. I truly don't know how they managed to flub it so bad. By far the worst podcast player/manager around!
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#47I don’t like Spotify’s player or their process for restricted access podcasts. “Free” isn’t free when it requires a special app. Podcasts using RSS was genius and a great “protocol” for distributing content that fit into the original web idea of information available anywhere. I hope Spotify loses and regular podcasts stick and thrive. I’m more worried about people like NPR requiring their own app x 1000.
I'm pretty sure that Spotify's API allows access to podcasts outside the official app. I'm already using software that can stream Spotify content to local devices that don't support Spotify. Creating an RSS feed is only an implementation detail.
And I wouldn't discount the publishing and distribution part of making a podcast content available. Without Spotify or a similar platform, the burden of putting content online, making it discoverable and getting audience analytics falls on the creators. I'm pretty sure that most creators would be pretty disinterested in spending time on these tasks.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll admit I'm a podcast novice, but what player are you using and what does it offer beyond Spotify? I find, download, and play podcasts through Spotify without issues, and the few features I need (speed adjustment, offline access, and show notes/links) are all available on Spotify. If there is a better way to listen, I'd love to hear about it.
I use Pocket Casts. I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable, but I haven't even felt the need to check. Plus, I don't like a monoculture.
>I just like it a lot, and I don't want to switch because it does everything I need. Spotify seems like it wouldn't be as configurable
Maybe I'm missing out on part of the experience. What else is there to do with a podcast other than download/stream and listen?
- Thanks for all the tips. I don't listen to a ton of podcasts but I'll give it a shot.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#49Points for getting Joe rogan: +50
Points for censorship: -1000
Spotify is not taking over.
Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)
#50I like Spotify for music. But i hate it for other content. I like overcast for podcasts. It’s not just ui, i like having separate channels separate. I wouldn’t want my movie in Spotify either.