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Post by gonehome »

dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

Trade-off that biases towards iPad like thinness.

Logic board and speakers have to go somewhere, they can either go behind the display and make things thicker or they can go in the chin bar area.

I was surprised they did that too - I expected a look that was more like the pro display. Other than that though I'm pretty impressed with the design, and it is quite thin. It looks like how I'd imagine a 'future' computer to look.

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Post by websites2323 »

slantyyz wrote: post #207
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think "most" mice and keyboards are USB-A: bluetooth peripherals eclipsed wired peripherals ages ago. Yes, most of the decent new ones charge via USB-C.

I have a recent vintage Logitech mouse (came out this year). The charging port on the mouse, is USB-C, but the charging cable it came with was still A to C. Same goes for the 2.4Ghz unified dongle it came with.

The receiver being USBA is a definitely a miss on Logitech’s part. BT is spotty on my macs with these mice.

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Post by reaperducer »

Ashanmaril wrote: post #57
manigandham wrote: post #23

> "iMac comes with a new power connector that attaches magnetically and a beautifully woven 2-meter-long color-matched cable." Magsafe for a stationary computer...

I mean, the idea with MagSafe is that if someone trips over it, it won't yank the device to the ground, so that still applies to stationary devices. But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

But on the other hand, I'm not sure who has a desktop computer with cords draped across areas people are walking.

Photo studios for one. Or anyplace outside of a studio where photography is being done long term. I saw this at a factory where a photographer was hired to take pictures of all 14,000 (!) SKUs for a new web site.

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Post by paulmd »

Waterluvian wrote: post #28

The 4 identical ports, 2 with Thunderbolt icons feels like a real swing and a miss at cleaner UX. Is it really that infeasible to just make all identical ports behave identically? My parents have a story about how at age 6 I moved our Apple IIGS into my bedroom. They were more bewildered than angry. The one thing I remember is my older brother saying how because every port was uniquely shaped even a child can set up…

4 thunderbolt ports is a lot of IO, that is 16 pcie 3.0 lanes. I doubt a phone chip even has that much, 8 lanes is already more than is typical.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by kylec »

pupppet wrote: post #226

Can this thing really only power a single external display or is a single display just suggested? I have one on each side of my ancient late 2013 iMac and I'd hate to have to lose one.

It's a limit of the M1 chip. There are workarounds, but they're not great

https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/24/m1-mac-external-display-worka...

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Post by srik »

codezero wrote: post #162

Look how big the escape key is on that keyboard, finally, revenge for the touch bar! I like the direction Apple is going here, I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year, and that's what I'll be waiting for. I'd like 27 inches of screen, at least 16GB of ram, but preferably 32, and that's about all I'd ask for. My current workstation is a 2013 27" iMac fully upgraded (fusion drive, 16…

> I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year

I wouldn’t be so sure. Unless their M1 strategy changes, I think they’ve temporarily gotten rid of iMac Pro entirely and are probably going to rely on the Mac Pro to fill that void instead.

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Post by meepmorp »

cududa wrote: post #210
meepmorp wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've gone through a lot of power cables for Apple products, so it's not as nifty an idea for me as for you.

You go through a lot of power cables for a stationary computer?

They've got a history of producing fragile cable designs, and IME, even with stationary computers, the cables take a beating.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by codezero »

frereubu wrote: post #237
codezero wrote: post #162

Look how big the escape key is on that keyboard, finally, revenge for the touch bar! I like the direction Apple is going here, I assume they will have higher end iMacs later this year or early next year, and that's what I'll be waiting for. I'd like 27 inches of screen, at least 16GB of ram, but preferably 32, and that's about all I'd ask for. My current workstation is a 2013 27" iMac fully upgraded (fusion drive, 16…

I can't see what the arrow key layout is on the narrower (non-numeric-keypad) version because a hand is over it. It looks like there's a big key where there would be space above the left / right keys on the most recent one. I've got one of the interim ones where the left / right keys are full size so it's difficult to know where they are by touch, and I'm still irritated by that. I hope they haven't gone back again.

Unfortunately the shot I saw showed the same big left right arrow keys. Small improvements to the over all design but that is still a huge tactile wart for me as well.

If I end up using one of those keyboards I'll probably replace the larger arrow keys with something that has the top half recessed, or just add a dimple/bar over them for a similar sensation.

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Post by reaperducer »

slg wrote: post #209
manigandham wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except this doesn't have a battery, touchscreen or keyboard attached. It seems extremely unlikely for someone to do this instead of just getting a laptop or tablet for this price.

>Except this doesn't have a battery Hence the Magsafe. >touchscreen or keyboard attached Hence the updates to the wireless keyboard, touchpad, and mouse. >Seems extremely unlikely to do this instead of just getting a laptop or tablet given the price. This is the wrong way to think about these features. Yes, if this is your only use case for the device you are better off with a laptop or tablet. If this is something y…

If this is something you do occasionally

Like when the family gathers around the computer to look at photos or FaceTime at Christmas.

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