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All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by slantyyz »

fastball wrote: post #103
vmception wrote: post #81

Can someone explain the 8gb obsession (edit: 16gb is possible, but why not more) ? is there a real limitation with this architecture or are they just making a business decision so they can sell multiple models over 2-3 years instead of creating what the market wants immediately

Planned obsolescence has never really been Apple's style (their devices generally get longer software support and have better resale value than anyone else). It's just about scale for the time being, probably. The M1 chip is now in 5 different devices. That is 100% worth not fulfilling everyone's RAM needs for the fantastic economies of scale and engineering simplicity that brings. They'll come out with an M2 soon en…

> Planned obsolescence has never really been Apple's style (their devices generally get longer software support and have better resale value than anyone else).

I think that only applies to their mobile devices. I have had Intel Macs that can't run the latest MacOS but can still Boot Camp into Windows 10. Of course, this is all moot in a post-Intel Apple world.

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Post by scrumbledober »

TameAntelope wrote: post #48

I'm super excited to see them figure out/be comfortable with a detached Touch ID. I've wanted my watch to be set as a Touch ID, or my wireless keyboard for my mac mini, and historically Apple seemed like they'd only allow physically attached Touch ID. With this product, it looks like they're providing a Touch ID keyboard that's wireless. I'm very curious how that works logistically, and if they'll make the keyboards…

I was really hoping they would add touchID to the magic trackpad. I love my trackpad but there's no way I'm trading in my nice mechanical keyboard for a magic keyboard, and I doubt they'll add it to both peripherals.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by protomyth »

jeffbee wrote: post #213
protomyth wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Air has an M1. Let's not say something doesn't happen when it does. We also don't know the exact setup of the iMac in this regard.

We don't, but their marketing photos clearly show a fan, which would lead to a reasonable conclusion that the thermal design is more along the lines of the Mini, and not similar to the Air.

Well, given the power supply is mostly out of the box, I would expect it not to be along the lines of the Mac mini, which has a fully internal power supply, thus my original comment.

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Post by paulmd »

panzagl wrote: post #190
neogodless wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 12 years, 3 months, Windows lost 20% to 75% (1.63% per year), and OS X gained 12% to 16% (1.02% per year). At the current rate, they'll converge in just 22 years 3 months, with Windows and OSX having 39% each.

2043, the year of the Linux Desktop

* Unix

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Post by ianwalter »

konart wrote: post #158
dschramm wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dark grey is probably reserved for the iMac Pro. Spoiler alert: It will be the fastest iMac ever.

iMac Pro Officially Discontinued https://www.macrumors.com/2021/03/19/imac-pro-officially-dis...

I bet they won’t call it an iMac Pro but it will be the higher-end iMac.

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Post by robertoandred »

dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

The speakers are in the chin. Network port is on the power brick.

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Post by vmception »

floatboth wrote: post #197
MrOxiMoron wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it either, max 16gb? I want/need more.

The way they did memory on the M1, they can only use two LPDDR4X chips. DRAM is on package, so they can only physically fit two on their package and presumably they do not have pins that would go off package for more memory channels at all. Micron and Samsung make 12 Gb LPDDR4X chips, but Apple probably decided that having a 24 Gb option wouldn't be worth it, or would be an ugly number, or couldn't get enough supply,…

Good answer! Apple doesn’t seem to shy away from “odd” numbers, like 4.5K resolution model

I would go with supply combined with having enough supply of the 8gb modules but not enough of the 12gb ones that it would create strange tiers, while they would lean towards a 24gb machine

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Post by yumraj »

Has there been any official acknowledgment of the various reports of massive SSD writes on M1 Macs?

I’d hate for any of these to have a life I’d just few years due to that, especially as my 2013 MBP is still my primary machine.

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