Genuine question: what are some practical advantages of a split-flap display over, well... any other kind of dynamic character display? The only two I could think of are: - they don't emit light, so maybe there could be some kind of light-sensitive situation where this would be required (though in that case e-ink would surely surpass it). - the sound passively-alerting those present to updates. It's not obtrusive or…
similarly to an e-ink display, it doesn't take energy to show the current/last status, it's required only for transitions. If there's a blackout, the display is still visible.
Open source “split-flap” mechanical display
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Nostalgia, really -- I have fond associations of these with childhood train journeys. I could just about imagine a genuine use case in some kind of hostile environment. You could probably make one of these very resistant to water/temperature/radiation, with the controller kept safely out of the way.
I used to have one of these, but left it above the radiator. All flaps warped beyond repair :( So if you're going for resistance to harsh environments you'd have to source a better material for the flaps, at least.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nostalgia, really -- I have fond associations of these with childhood train journeys. I could just about imagine a genuine use case in some kind of hostile environment. You could probably make one of these very resistant to water/temperature/radiation, with the controller kept safely out of the way.
That sparked an interesting idea: would these work in a zero-gravity situation (mechanically I mean), and if not, how to adapt them so they would? (And agree with the nostalgia - I'm sure for many the sound is associated with a quiet anticipation or excitement of embarking on a journey.)
Add rotary springs (is this a valid term?) to the flap hinges so they're forced down once released from the top edge of the frame.
Re: Open source “split-flap” mechanical display
#44Scott Bezek has a great video on "How a Split Flap Display Works" [0]. He also sells blank "flaps" on Tindie [1]. The documentation on how to build the Split Flap is also really awesome [2], including how to cut your own flaps [3]. I've been following this project for a while. It's pretty awesome. I estimate about $10 per character (as opposed to the $180/character (!!) another poster mentioned through Alibaba), with…
> I've been following this project for a while. It's pretty awesome. I estimate about $10 per character (as opposed to the $180/character (!!) another poster mentioned through Alibaba), with a large portion of the cost being the custom cut "flaps" (in small quantities). It seems like the cost could get in the $2-$4 range per character but I couldn't figure out how to do it without a significant amount of labor involv…
Use a waterjet cutter instead. You'll have some issues with microplastics in the water, but these can be filtered.
Re: Open source “split-flap” mechanical display
#45Genuine question: what are some practical advantages of a split-flap display over, well... any other kind of dynamic character display? The only two I could think of are: - they don't emit light, so maybe there could be some kind of light-sensitive situation where this would be required (though in that case e-ink would surely surpass it). - the sound passively-alerting those present to updates. It's not obtrusive or…
Re: Open source “split-flap” mechanical display
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sparked an interesting idea: would these work in a zero-gravity situation (mechanically I mean), and if not, how to adapt them so they would? (And agree with the nostalgia - I'm sure for many the sound is associated with a quiet anticipation or excitement of embarking on a journey.)
They probably won't. After a flap has passed the upper lip, which is kind of holding it back to have a precise "flipping point", gravity will take care of moving it down. No gravity, no flap. ;-)
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> I've been following this project for a while. It's pretty awesome. I estimate about $10 per character (as opposed to the $180/character (!!) another poster mentioned through Alibaba), with a large portion of the cost being the custom cut "flaps" (in small quantities). It seems like the cost could get in the $2-$4 range per character but I couldn't figure out how to do it without a significant amount of labor involv…
Laser cutting is straight out for the hobbyist, because of the chlorine, as you correctly point out. I think the way to do this is either with a CNC or with some die punch solution. Doing a single cutout of PVC with a CNC would be fine, but doing 40x23x7 is probably not. Doing a die punch is maybe possible but I don't really know how to create a custom punch and what tooling to use.
But only if you were doing a bunch of signs!
Re: Open source “split-flap” mechanical display
#48Genuine question: what are some practical advantages of a split-flap display over, well... any other kind of dynamic character display? The only two I could think of are: - they don't emit light, so maybe there could be some kind of light-sensitive situation where this would be required (though in that case e-ink would surely surpass it). - the sound passively-alerting those present to updates. It's not obtrusive or…
Re: Open source “split-flap” mechanical display
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've been following this project for a while. It's pretty awesome. I estimate about $10 per character (as opposed to the $180/character (!!) another poster mentioned through Alibaba), with a large portion of the cost being the custom cut "flaps" (in small quantities). It seems like the cost could get in the $2-$4 range per character but I couldn't figure out how to do it without a significant amount of labor involv…
> Laser cutting a bunch of sheets at once could be one option Use a waterjet cutter instead. You'll have some issues with microplastics in the water, but these can be filtered.
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#50Related video on Flip Clocks from Technology Connections: https://youtu.be/ZArBfxaPzD8
I really enjoy Alec's videos and quirky humour. Beware though, this kind of channel is a massive, addicting time sink. Other similar channels that HN might appreciate (the first two are quite well-known, the last one I found recently and is definitely bingeworthy): - Smarter Every Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6107grRI4m0o2-emgoDnAA - Tom Scott https://www.youtube.com/user/enyay - Practical Engineering https:…