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Re: Facebook removed fake accounts in India until it saw BJP politician was involved

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Post by reactspa » Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 11:52 PM UTC

dartharva wrote: post #75

reactspa wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single political party in Pakistan is an islamic-nationalist party. Yet the Western media never describes them so. Yet the BJP is always suffixed with "hindu-nationalist". Israel has preferential citizenship for Jews. Yet, somehow India is not allowed to have CAA (per western media). Double standards, I suppose.

> Every single political party in Pakistan is an islamic-nationalist party. Yet the Western media never describes them so. Because that is to be expected in an Islamic country. India, on the other hand, is supposed to be a secular nation that prides itself in its diversity. As for CAA and the like, I feel it's mostly a branding problem. Most of the resistance BJP gets is because their PR people aren't able to present…

I like consistency. For consistency's sake, the western media should prefix islamic-nationalist political parties around the world (that would be most political parties in all islamic countries) with "islamic-nationalist".

But perhaps you're not that into consistency, in which case I can empathize why you're okay with the status quo.

Also, please don't generalize. Not everyone is "proud" of india's diversity. I much prefer how the homogeneity of countries like Japan and China has enabled them to quickly progress. I believe i represent the views of a silent majority in india.

Re: Facebook removed fake accounts in India until it saw BJP politician was involved

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Post by dartharva » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 4:33 AM UTC

reactspa wrote: post #81

dartharva wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every single political party in Pakistan is an islamic-nationalist party. Yet the Western media never describes them so. Because that is to be expected in an Islamic country. India, on the other hand, is supposed to be a secular nation that prides itself in its diversity. As for CAA and the like, I feel it's mostly a branding problem. Most of the resistance BJP gets is because their PR people aren't able to present…

I like consistency. For consistency's sake, the western media should prefix islamic-nationalist political parties around the world (that would be most political parties in all islamic countries) with "islamic-nationalist". But perhaps you're not that into consistency, in which case I can empathize why you're okay with the status quo. Also, please don't generalize. Not everyone is "proud" of india's diversity. I much…

> I believe i represent the views of a silent majority in india.

Correct me if I misinterpreted what you've written, but if you think removing diversity is what the "silent majority" wants, boy, are you living in a delusion. You might be trying to make up explanations to forcibly rationalize bigotry. Ethnic and religious diversity is not something you can just turn into "homogeneity" without large-scale genocide. Besides it was never a significant factor in Japan and China's growth relative to India.

Re: Facebook removed fake accounts in India until it saw BJP politician was involved

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Post by revendell_elf » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 10:10 AM UTC

reactspa wrote: post #81

dartharva wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every single political party in Pakistan is an islamic-nationalist party. Yet the Western media never describes them so. Because that is to be expected in an Islamic country. India, on the other hand, is supposed to be a secular nation that prides itself in its diversity. As for CAA and the like, I feel it's mostly a branding problem. Most of the resistance BJP gets is because their PR people aren't able to present…

I like consistency. For consistency's sake, the western media should prefix islamic-nationalist political parties around the world (that would be most political parties in all islamic countries) with "islamic-nationalist". But perhaps you're not that into consistency, in which case I can empathize why you're okay with the status quo. Also, please don't generalize. Not everyone is "proud" of india's diversity. I much…

I want to respond before you're downvoted to hell.

I certainly agree with you that not everyone's proud of India's diversity. It's been more of an issue lately where we've a separate "Personal Law Boards" for certain religious groups and at the same time we call ourselves secular.

If India has to really become a secular nation, it has to make sure that it treats everybody the same without any specific laws for specific groups.

Re: Facebook removed fake accounts in India until it saw BJP politician was involved

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Post by naturalauction » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

dartharva wrote: post #82

reactspa wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like consistency. For consistency's sake, the western media should prefix islamic-nationalist political parties around the world (that would be most political parties in all islamic countries) with "islamic-nationalist". But perhaps you're not that into consistency, in which case I can empathize why you're okay with the status quo. Also, please don't generalize. Not everyone is "proud" of india's diversity. I much…

> I believe i represent the views of a silent majority in india. Correct me if I misinterpreted what you've written, but if you think removing diversity is what the "silent majority" wants, boy, are you living in a delusion. You might be trying to make up explanations to forcibly rationalize bigotry. Ethnic and religious diversity is not something you can just turn into "homogeneity" without large-scale genocide. Bes…

Also, just because India is majority Hindu doesn't mean there isn't massive diversity within those populations. India has 22 official languages (and many more which don't have the same level of representation). India will never be ethnically homogenous to the same extent that Japan (a country with two large religions that peacefully coexist) and China are.

Re: Facebook removed fake accounts in India until it saw BJP politician was involved

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Post by zpeti » Sat, Apr 17, 2021, 8:13 PM UTC

hnbad wrote: post #25

zpeti wrote: post #9

It seems to me on this topic almost everyone (including myself) is in a completely hypocritical position. We want facebook to take action in countries where we disagree, but not take action in areas/countries where we agree. Here is a perfect example. I imagine most people criticising Facebook here were in favour of facebook wiping the hunter biden story from everywhere. Because one is a conservative government, the…

No, the Hunter Biden story was "wiped from everywhere" because it was part illegal (the authentic parts, if they were indeed authentic, would likely have violated revenge porn laws in addition to Facebook's ToS on nudity), part misinformation and part (and this is probably the least important) character assassination. It also wasn't a very successful "wipe" if the story got coverage in various mainstream media. It wa…

Thoughts? https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-promotes-conserv...

Re: Facebook removed fake accounts in India until it saw BJP politician was involved

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Post by chalst » Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 1:01 PM UTC

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #14

"Whistleblower points to double standard in Facebook’s enforcement of rules against powerful." Ya think? All of these articles about FB needing to block this or that are really missing the point. It's really quite simple. FB doesn't want to be regulated. The people who might regulate FB like Modi and the BJP. Therefore FB treats Modi and the BJP better. There is no universal standard we can apply to content regulatio…

On the facts you're dead right but I reject the cynical framing. This is an important story because we want the truth to come out.

It's why, for instance, the first impeachment of Trump was so important, even though you could correctly say there was no chance of success in the Senate. Because of this, safeguarding the integrity of the election becam important to a lot of people, and so Trump was unable to steal the election even with complete dominance over his party and a large, devotedly loyal mass movement behind him.