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Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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So you could conveniently drive around in a bubble of ‘right to self defense’ This guy you’re referencing here had a violent past and it’s possible that he was looking for confrontation. Believe what you may but a young man is no longer with us. I don’t buy this self defense blanket

Doesn't matter how many priors you have. Even here in Norway - where you're barely allowed to look at a gun - if some random person points an AK47 at you, then you're allowed to defend yourself with a "reasonable response". Tell me, what do you consider a "reasonable response" to being threatened with an AK47? Yeah, that's what I thought! Hell, it doesn't even matter if you're in a car or not. Or would you be ok with…

There is no evidence pointing the victim pointed the gun at the suspect. At the moment you choose to take their word which indicates your bias. I lean on the victim’s side though I respect your right to believe what you want.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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In exactly what way is information available in public government databases considered private . Please be specific. Regardless of your definition of public , the word doxxing has never covered it. We have plenty of other language to refer to the sharing of publicly available information. The word doxxing was coined to give a name to a type of invasion of privacy that came to prominence with the rise of the Internet.…

If I didn't consent to that data to be stored in a public government database.

Real property transactions are public by operation of law. It’s been that way for literally hundreds of years.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. Not only is it searchable in multiple state databases (tax, real estate plats) but sale information including buyer and seller is typically published in the newspaper: https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/sc-cons-0903-hous... > The information about your home purchase and the terms and conditions of your mortgage loan are recorded among the land records…

> The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. That…has no bearing on whether sharing it violates Facebook policy on “privacy and personal information”. What would have a bearing would be citing the language of the policy and showing how the action was inconsistent with it, and I suspect that is not happening because the action is, in fact, consistent with the policy.

Facebook will happily let you share articles about Kimberly Guilfoyle’s new mansion: https://www.facebook.com/KHOU11/posts/10161394155724062. Just to pick literally the first example that came to mind.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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> I’m all for the message behind it > they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows Hopefully this caused you to do more research on the message.

> Hopefully this caused you to do more research on the message. Well, they've gone underground with many of their goals due to public outcry. You'll have to use archive.org to see their true goals for our society. They've pulled most of them off their website.

The cofounders already claimed their "trained Marxists", then removed it from their website.

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Nobody disagree with the message: of course, all lives matter. Everyone is also fine with the peaceful protesting (I mean actual peaceful protesting, not CNN's meaning of peaceful, which already became a meme). Whoever seek to loot, destroy and coerce people into stupid acts needs to be condemned. BLM leaders didn't condemn the violence, which make the BLM movement just a bunch of terrorists, same as Antifa. It doesn…

> Nobody disagree with the message: of course, all lives matter You may be surprised, but quite a few people do disagree with what you've just said: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/11/12136140/black-all-lives-matte...

That's just a politicisation of the message to create further division among people who are not racist. Same thing as calling people nazi (so you can feel entitled to punch them).

I think that philosophically most people agree that all lives matter and behave accordingly. Who doesn't is definitely a problem, albeit they're a minority.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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We had BLM protests in my city. I’m all for the message behind it, but they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows. Should have taken advantage of the lax work from home policy and should have stayed home I guess? I’m no fan of the actual “organization” or the people behind it though, and it’s sad FB is actively censuring information.

Nobody disagree with the message: of course, all lives matter. Everyone is also fine with the peaceful protesting (I mean actual peaceful protesting, not CNN's meaning of peaceful, which already became a meme). Whoever seek to loot, destroy and coerce people into stupid acts needs to be condemned. BLM leaders didn't condemn the violence, which make the BLM movement just a bunch of terrorists, same as Antifa. It doesn…

> Nobody disagree with the message: of course, all lives matter.

People do, in fact, disagree with the message, both on the level of the slogan, and on the level of the substance (which is not merely “Black lives matter at all”, but “Black lives matter much more than thet are treated as mattering by status-quo systems, necessitating urgent and immediate reform.”) Both the “All Lives Matter” as a dismissive generic, and the “Blue Lives Matter” inversion of the argument on who is undervalued, at least in the police vs. Black context which is the most common focal event of BLM protests, reflect.

I mean, some Republicans in Congress just founded a fairly overtly White nationalist caucus, which they wouldn’t do if they weren’t secure in the idea that White nationalism was a winning position with their base and donors. White racism is deeply ingrained in American society and institutions, and plenty of peple see that as a feature not a bug, and plenty more see it as a non-urgent concern that doesn’t touch their interest even though it is abstractly suboptimal.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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In Nevada you can legally protect yourself and your loved one inside occupied vehicle (or house) during attack with a deadly weapon. Which means make a colander out of worthless idiot.

All the righteousness of "self defense" goes out the window when you start casually throwing around things like "make a colander out of worthless idiot". Self-defense is important, and I'm so sick and tired of seeing people only bring it up when their own internal bloodlust flares up.

If you sick and tired, go talk to a doctor and take a rest.

You either can protect yourself or not. Legal ability of citizens to protect themselves against worthless idiots is important part of keeping our streets and cities clean.

I wish same right will be given to business owners.

Then all these self-righteous corrupted criminal movements of "almost peaceful protesters" will cease to exist.

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If you think killing someone over smashing a window is reasonable you need to seek help immediately. Please talk go a mental health professional.

So at what time is it reasonable to apply force against a visibly aggressive person who is approaching your car yelling slurs?

If you reasonably believe it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or another.

Killing some random grandma for showing you middle finger does not really qualify.

However killing threatening idiot armed with something and facing you is totally different. To note - if idiot hits you and then runs away - sending bullet to catch him is not a good idea and not going to work (unfortunately).

On a final note - in a state with good CCW laws people typically are more polite and well behaving. Flipping a bird to random asshole might backfire and it won't matter to you whether he knows the laws or not.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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"and the only useful one" Actually this is a useless definition, because what constitutes "private information" is exactly at issue

In exactly what way is information available in public government databases considered private . Please be specific. Regardless of your definition of public , the word doxxing has never covered it. We have plenty of other language to refer to the sharing of publicly available information. The word doxxing was coined to give a name to a type of invasion of privacy that came to prominence with the rise of the Internet.…

‘Doxing is an effective tool for bad actors, because the internet can cough up a shocking amount of publicly available information about practically anyone.’ - https://www.wired.com/story/what-do-to-if-you-are-being-doxe...

‘While doxers sometimes use hacking or deception to uncover personal details about their targets, contrary to popular belief “most of the info is public,” according to one researcher who has spent years studying and participating in the practice of doxing.’ — https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dox-doxing-protection-how-to/

The vast majority of doxxing does not require unauthorized access, social engineering or betrayal by an affiliated person. Instead, it’s almost always connecting dots between openly available bits of information and then packaging that information so as to direct and simplify harassment.

https://helgesverre.com/blog/how-to-dox/

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