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Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by jokethrowaway »

winstonchecksin wrote: post #6

We had BLM protests in my city. I’m all for the message behind it, but they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows. Should have taken advantage of the lax work from home policy and should have stayed home I guess? I’m no fan of the actual “organization” or the people behind it though, and it’s sad FB is actively censuring information.

Nobody disagree with the message: of course, all lives matter. Everyone is also fine with the peaceful protesting (I mean actual peaceful protesting, not CNN's meaning of peaceful, which already became a meme).

Whoever seek to loot, destroy and coerce people into stupid acts needs to be condemned. BLM leaders didn't condemn the violence, which make the BLM movement just a bunch of terrorists, same as Antifa.

It doesn't matter how cute or righteous the name of your organisation, actions speak louder.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by nitrogen »

rayiner wrote: post #13
Barrin92 wrote: post #7

>A Facebook spokesperson told Newsweek, "This content was removed for violating our privacy and personal information policy." The policy forbids articles that share details that could identify a person's financial and residential information, thus violating their privacy rights. That seems like a pretty flimsy excuse given that I see stories about individuals of public interest buying expensive property on Facebook a…

The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. Not only is it searchable in multiple state databases (tax, real estate plats) but sale information including buyer and seller is typically published in the newspaper: https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/sc-cons-0903-hous... > The information about your home purchase and the terms and conditions of your mortgage loan are recorded among the land records…

Do wealthy or famous people use some kind of property management entity to hide their personal info in those records?

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by antiterra »

rayiner wrote: post #13
Barrin92 wrote: post #7

>A Facebook spokesperson told Newsweek, "This content was removed for violating our privacy and personal information policy." The policy forbids articles that share details that could identify a person's financial and residential information, thus violating their privacy rights. That seems like a pretty flimsy excuse given that I see stories about individuals of public interest buying expensive property on Facebook a…

The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. Not only is it searchable in multiple state databases (tax, real estate plats) but sale information including buyer and seller is typically published in the newspaper: https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/sc-cons-0903-hous... > The information about your home purchase and the terms and conditions of your mortgage loan are recorded among the land records…

Doxxing that results in harassment is very often done via public information. What’s your point?

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by nitrogen »

MikeUt wrote: post #5
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but will they prevent you from posting a link to the HN discussion of the Newsweek article about them blocking the NY Post article? Is it possible that Facebook is a big enough share of the internet that they can block the Streisand Effect? My money is on "no".

The Streisand effect only happens if you find out about the censorship. There's a million ways to reduce the reach of a story covertly.

As one example of how to slow a story: back when Wikileaks was first really trending, Facebook would sometimes just take a really long time to submit a post, or simply error out, if you tried to post a URL from Wikileaks.

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Post by e9 »

nitrogen wrote: post #22
rayiner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. Not only is it searchable in multiple state databases (tax, real estate plats) but sale information including buyer and seller is typically published in the newspaper: https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/sc-cons-0903-hous... > The information about your home purchase and the terms and conditions of your mortgage loan are recorded among the land records…

Do wealthy or famous people use some kind of property management entity to hide their personal info in those records?

Yes, they set up trust and then trust owns the property. You can still sometimes figure out the owner based on the trust name.

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Post by entangledqubit »

nitrogen wrote: post #22
rayiner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The identity of house buyers is a matter of public record. Not only is it searchable in multiple state databases (tax, real estate plats) but sale information including buyer and seller is typically published in the newspaper: https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/sc-cons-0903-hous... > The information about your home purchase and the terms and conditions of your mortgage loan are recorded among the land records…

Do wealthy or famous people use some kind of property management entity to hide their personal info in those records?

Yes. Also, if this is a concern, the property involved may never have been publicly listed as for sale.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by Fauntleroy »

Trias11 wrote: post #18
winstonchecksin wrote: post #6

We had BLM protests in my city. I’m all for the message behind it, but they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows. Should have taken advantage of the lax work from home policy and should have stayed home I guess? I’m no fan of the actual “organization” or the people behind it though, and it’s sad FB is actively censuring information.

In Nevada you can legally protect yourself and your loved one inside occupied vehicle (or house) during attack with a deadly weapon. Which means make a colander out of worthless idiot.

All the righteousness of "self defense" goes out the window when you start casually throwing around things like "make a colander out of worthless idiot".

Self-defense is important, and I'm so sick and tired of seeing people only bring it up when their own internal bloodlust flares up.

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Post by thinkingemote »

schnevets wrote: post #8

My guess is a slew of "closely monitored" Facebook groups eagerly shared the article the moment it was posted and some machine intelligence auto-moderator immediately added it to a blacklist without any human oversight. The article itself is pretty even-keeled (although has that typical New York Post editorialized spin). The article mentions other, unaffiliated BLM groups have already demanded transparency to where C…

This Newsweek article is also banned. I don't think this one is automatic but I guess it could be. How can one tell?

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Post by jokethrowaway »

nvr219 wrote: post #10
winstonchecksin wrote: post #6

We had BLM protests in my city. I’m all for the message behind it, but they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows. Should have taken advantage of the lax work from home policy and should have stayed home I guess? I’m no fan of the actual “organization” or the people behind it though, and it’s sad FB is actively censuring information.

Hi Winston, I want to know something: when cops murder somebody do you make a comment about it on hn or social media or anywhere, or do you only make comments when car windows get smashed?

I am completely against BLM and I am also completely against public police - and comment on both issues.

I'm against public police because they do a terrible job (in a lot of ways, from racing to just being incompetent, to persecuting victimless crimes) and I wish we had private police.

The only positive thing that could have come out of BLM was a discussion on this topic, instead they completely lacked the philosophical and political skills to do something about this. Defunding the police without having an alternative was obviously a terrible idea and it wrecked havoc wherever it was implemented.

I'm against BLM because they damaged and stole people's property for no reason, without condemning the actions of their violent members.

Violence is not protesting.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by strombofulous »

Causality1 wrote: post #20
commandlinefan wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> posting a link to the HN discussion Well... contentious stories get removed from here, too. This is a topic that gets contentious.

Oh yeah. Every time someone posts an article covering that GPT HN fiasco it gets flagged and removed almost immediately.

The what?
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