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DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by remram »

anoncake wrote: post #154
whalesalad wrote: post #151

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You can with a VM

Legally?

I don't understand why Apple wants to prevent people using MacOS in VMs. The performance is so bad that no one in their right mind would use it as a daily driver, but people are using it to build/release software.

More software available on their platform should be a good thing, no?

Professionals will still buy machines for convenience (building/testing is a lot faster when every click doesn't take seconds) and pay the Developer Program fee, and us open-source developers can make our software available to Apple users, or make sure it works on Safari. Why make it illegal?

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by anoncake »

remram wrote: post #251
anoncake wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legally?

I don't understand why Apple wants to prevent people using MacOS in VMs. The performance is so bad that no one in their right mind would use it as a daily driver, but people are using it to build/release software. More software available on their platform should be a good thing, no? Professionals will still buy machines for convenience (building/testing is a lot faster when every click doesn't take seconds) and pay t…

Maybe to preserve the illusion that Mac OS is inherently part of the computers Apple sells as opposed to a separate product that's linked to them artificially?

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by fsflover »

jhoechtl wrote: post #24
Traster wrote: post #18

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I moved over to duckduckgo too, but what I've found is that when I'm searching for some esoteric bug Google is way more likely to give me a decent result, to the point that I'll literally switch back to google for those types of issues.

I think what we need is a search engine which doesn't draw it's revenue stream from selling users data and has it's own spider. DDG essentially is a wrapper around Bing.

https://yacy.net

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by ric2b »

hoffs wrote: post #198
Epskampie wrote: post #35

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The "solution" of installing an extension is a bit shortsighted. Google can and will just remove the possibility for extensions to block FLOC in the future, when it's deemed profitable to do so.

That's what people have been saying for years about ad blockers. Did it happen yet?

Actually, sort of: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by sjwright »

HenryBemis wrote: post #73
sjwright wrote: post #51

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As a web developer I don’t test in Chrome—I develop against Firefox and sanity check using Safari iOS. Therefore my site is explicitly optimised for Firefox. Chrome users might experience issues. Or they won’t. I have no idea.

Your "about" clearly states it: Some say I argue on the internet too much, but those people are wrong. I don't know what you do/sell on said websites, but if you still have a job it means that those who hired you haven't received (enough) complaints yet.

You do realise that my “about” is a joke, right?

Regardless, I’m self-employed and my website makes enough money that I can spend plenty of time arguing with people on the Internet. Your admonishments certainly aren’t going to be my undoing.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by sjwright »

spinningslate wrote: post #89
sjwright wrote: post #51

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As a web developer I don’t test in Chrome—I develop against Firefox and sanity check using Safari iOS. Therefore my site is explicitly optimised for Firefox. Chrome users might experience issues. Or they won’t. I have no idea.

Don't see why you're being down-voted. That seems like a perfectly reasonable approach. Assuming, of course, the decision on compatibility is yours to make. Paradoxically, it's consistent with part of the strategy google used to promote Chrome in the first place: make the dev tools good, to encourage developers to use chrome, so they'll optimise for it, so it'll become popular. Privacy-advocating developers optimisin…

It's no matter; I'm not here for the points. Personally I find it hilarious to be down-voted for stating plain facts about my own (demonstrably effective) development process.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by sjwright »

gkbrk wrote: post #81
HenryBemis wrote: post #73

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Your "about" clearly states it: Some say I argue on the internet too much, but those people are wrong. I don't know what you do/sell on said websites, but if you still have a job it means that those who hired you haven't received (enough) complaints yet.

I am not sure about that. Usually, when people only use Chrome to test and develop; Firefox/Safari users end up with problems. When someone tests on Firefox; things usually end up working on Chrome without problems. This might be due to Firefox users being more aware of standards than just "whatever runs on Chrome today", or because Google tends to ship non-standard behaviour with their browser and make it a "standar…

Exactly this. I have no desire to develop against the most bleeding edge target. Thanks for explaining this better than I could.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by sjwright »

hutzlibu wrote: post #102
sjwright wrote: post #51

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As a web developer I don’t test in Chrome—I develop against Firefox and sanity check using Safari iOS. Therefore my site is explicitly optimised for Firefox. Chrome users might experience issues. Or they won’t. I have no idea.

So it is very likely that you do not live of being a web developer or have a very small niche market, given the market share of FF and the market share of chrome. No normal buisness can ignore how the vast majority of its users experience their site. Every user with issues is likely a lost user. But ... from a technical point of view, it is indeed very likely that what runs on FF will also run on chrome, but not nece…

Not every website requires retention of every person in order to survive. In my case, my website is better because my user base is tolerant of a bit of jank. I consider it a win whenever someone leaves because of trivial crap.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by lovemenot »

csemaan wrote: post #196
lovemenot wrote: post #169

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Substitute Google with the Chinese Communist Party and most Chinese people right now have the same attitude as your friends. How would those friends feel about Chinese people being able to gain their information independence from CCP? If they would be in favour, then at least metaphorically they answered their own question.

If one honestly and genuinely believe Chinese people can get their news only from the CCP, one needs to consider fighting to gain his/her own information independence.

Yes, one does. Those who do fight to gain his/her own information independence including - as of now - a small minority of people in China with both the will and technical/political resources, should be well rewarded in doing so. It seems we may both be in favour of access to information independence. Wherever needed. The more the better.
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