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Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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I started displaying a banner on my website [1] a while back for visitors using Chrome/Chromium telling them to "give Firefox a try for the future of the open web". I don't know how many people came across that or clicked the link, as I don't track that, but I enjoy doing my tiny part in letting people know. [1]: https://www.gkbrk.com

I'm doing my part by linking to/sh*tposting this educational comic strip regularly: https://coloss.us.to/chrome_truth.png ;)

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

#72
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll leave this quote from the EFF article on FloC[1] > Google’s pitch to privacy advocates is that a world with FLoC (and other elements of the “privacy sandbox”) will be better than the world we have today, where data brokers and ad-tech giants track and profile with impunity. But that framing is based on a false premise that we have to choose between “old tracking” and “new tracking.” It’s not either-or. Instead o…

> But that framing is based on a false premise Another false premise is that the "old tracking" will stop because of the "new tracking".

Chrome is entirely removing third-party cookies by 2022.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/14/21064698/google-third-par...

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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In what way is the site "optimized for privacy-respecting browsers" ? The browser is the thing being optimized. Does it mean to say that the website operators will intentionnaly not respect privacy of Chrome users but they will for Firefox ? “Chrome users might experience issues” but what issues ? It reads like a dishonest TOS like the one used by service providers using catch-all statements to cover their backs. It…

As a web developer I don’t test in Chrome—I develop against Firefox and sanity check using Safari iOS. Therefore my site is explicitly optimised for Firefox. Chrome users might experience issues. Or they won’t. I have no idea.

Your "about" clearly states it: Some say I argue on the internet too much, but those people are wrong.

I don't know what you do/sell on said websites, but if you still have a job it means that those who hired you haven't received (enough) complaints yet.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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post #21

I started displaying a banner on my website [1] a while back for visitors using Chrome/Chromium telling them to "give Firefox a try for the future of the open web". I don't know how many people came across that or clicked the link, as I don't track that, but I enjoy doing my tiny part in letting people know. [1]: https://www.gkbrk.com

Firefox is done, they are woke and pro-censorship. Use Brave

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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post #18

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I moved over to duckduckgo too, but what I've found is that when I'm searching for some esoteric bug Google is way more likely to give me a decent result, to the point that I'll literally switch back to google for those types of issues.

I think what we need is a search engine which doesn't draw it's revenue stream from selling users data and has it's own spider. DDG essentially is a wrapper around Bing.

Why would DDG be better if it had its own spider? Do you really think a small company like DDG would have a better spider than Bing?

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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I don't know man. I was really happy about DDG existing and making an effort (although I am not a user). But they now clearly shifted from a "Noble Actor" to a "Competitor" with this aggressive marketing. I don't appreciate these marketing campaigns that are directed at the competition. I never liked the "I'm a Mac"-campaigns, nor the all the "Bing"-fearmongering. It signals to me that you're not a fighter for a nobl…

I agree. I used to think both sides were about equal. And then one side got more extreme and did really bad things to lots of people. The other side called them out. I think calling them out wasn't very nice, so they're basically twisting my hand forcing me to ~vote~ select the extreme option. Not my fault.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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post #21

I started displaying a banner on my website [1] a while back for visitors using Chrome/Chromium telling them to "give Firefox a try for the future of the open web". I don't know how many people came across that or clicked the link, as I don't track that, but I enjoy doing my tiny part in letting people know. [1]: https://www.gkbrk.com

If you want a banner like this to succeed, you need to make the benefit personal to the individual. We all care about the open web. But not enough to move a finger.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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What about Microsoft edge?

In my humble opinion if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy. But Firefox is a good browser and "morally" a better choice for many reasons others have already summarized. Personally I use Edge as a developer because it's a Chromium browser (so it reflects most of my users' experience and works with a lot of tooling developed for Chr…

> In my humble opinion if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy.

Oh, serving them your browsing history on a silver plate isn't really the same as letting them infer it from the scraps they could get from other browsers.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But that framing is based on a false premise Another false premise is that the "old tracking" will stop because of the "new tracking".

Chrome is entirely removing third-party cookies by 2022. https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/14/21064698/google-third-par...

Fingerprinting and connecting to logins has been a thing forever, just look at advertising companies offering cross-device targeting.

Or just how aggressively google wants you to login to youtube these days.

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