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I'm really surprised Germany is playing so loose and fast with privacy as they're known to be one of the countries with the strictest privacy laws around.
By the way how does this work being mandatory with people that don't own a smartphone??
What's the difference between this Luca app and the "official" German covid tracing app (Corona-Warn)? Or are they the same thing?
The official Corona Warn App uses the Exposure Notification Framework and does not share any personal data.
Is there a U.S. based Chaos Computer Club (CCC) or CCC like group?
My understanding as an outsider who has never been to the US is that the US hacker scene is quite different. One notable difference is a much closer connection to e.g. intelligence services. On the other hand, the relationship to democratic processes, as well as the stance on state/federal involvement in IT problem spaces, seems to differ between Germany and the US. Again: I'm an outsider and would actually like to h…
Some CCC hackers had a pretty good relationship with the Russian KGB. They got information about a wide range of US military secrets including details about the Space Defense Initiative (SDI). They were so successful that they wound up dead and a movie was made about them. Since then the CCC has to be heavily infiltrated by all kinds of Intelligence Services.
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My understanding as an outsider who has never been to the US is that the US hacker scene is quite different. One notable difference is a much closer connection to e.g. intelligence services. On the other hand, the relationship to democratic processes, as well as the stance on state/federal involvement in IT problem spaces, seems to differ between Germany and the US. Again: I'm an outsider and would actually like to h…
> One notable difference is a much closer connection to e.g. intelligence services. Some CCC hackers had a pretty good relationship with the Russian KGB. They got information about a wide range of US military secrets including details about the Space Defense Initiative (SDI). They were so successful that they wound up dead and a movie was made about them. Since then the CCC has to be heavily infiltrated by all kinds…
I think this more served as a cautionary tale to not get involved with this kind of agencies at all.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> One notable difference is a much closer connection to e.g. intelligence services. Some CCC hackers had a pretty good relationship with the Russian KGB. They got information about a wide range of US military secrets including details about the Space Defense Initiative (SDI). They were so successful that they wound up dead and a movie was made about them. Since then the CCC has to be heavily infiltrated by all kinds…
> Since then the CCC has to be heavily infiltrated by all kinds of Intelligence Services. I think this more served as a cautionary tale to not get involved with this kind of agencies at all.
What's the difference between this Luca app and the "official" German covid tracing app (Corona-Warn)? Or are they the same thing?
The official app stores all its data decentralized, only cryptographic hashes are stored centrally that each device then can check locally for potential risks. In the Luca app, the user's location data is stored centrally, and the states can then purchase a license to access data of potentially risky contacts. (BTW the public health offices are notoriously overworked during the pandemic, so it's not clear to me if th…
Anecdotally most of them are completely overwhelmed because of the currently fairly high case numbers and effective contact tracing does not really happen anymore. Also they mostly live in the technological stone age so they have a hard time scaling it up [1].
[1] https://www.dw.com/en/german-health-care-tackling-covid-with...
Wow this is bad, I'm sorry to hear it's already mandatory in one German state. I'm really surprised Germany is playing so loose and fast with privacy as they're known to be one of the countries with the strictest privacy laws around. By the way how does this work being mandatory with people that don't own a smartphone??
Wow this is bad, I'm sorry to hear it's already mandatory in one German state. I'm really surprised Germany is playing so loose and fast with privacy as they're known to be one of the countries with the strictest privacy laws around. By the way how does this work being mandatory with people that don't own a smartphone??
You're surprised because you're expecting politicians to have consistent principles, but it's just about what's convenient right now. This is an inherent issue with having elections every couple of years.
There is so much incompetency in governmental IT/software decisions and software it's actually sad. Is it a product of smart people simply not working in this sector or corruption?. It seems from the outside to be filled with imbeciles masquerading as administrators. We need to somehow make the government way more accountable, if only there was an organization that could do that, we could call it the media.
Is this one of the many examples of German government wasting taxpayer's money?
yes and its super easy to just create random valid qr codes: https://wolf128058.gitlab.io/schmudo2go/ also they don't have any rate limit on the sms service... so anybody can build a loop and call the sms endpoint... More fails: - https://github.com/mame82/misc/blob/master/luca_traceIds.md - https://lucatrack.de/ - development private and public key in the repo ( not harmful but a bad sign) - more that i forgot