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Luca App: CCC calls for a moratorium
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#22Is there a U.S. based Chaos Computer Club (CCC) or CCC like group?
There's defcon, but it's more of annual conference than an ongoing group that works together.
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I'm part of the CCC in Hamburg We will move to stockholm and I'm thinking of creating one :)
Good luck. In countries like Germany or Norway there is a culture of hacker organisations sustaining themselves financially via their members. This culture doesn't exist in Sweden, and the spaces and organisations that aren't subsidised by government funds or universities all disappear after a few years. (Source: Lived in all three countries, was active in such organisations in all three countries)
Oh, there are tons of hackerspaces in Sweden. Its just that they are either tied to universities, startup clusters or for kids.
I guess you were simply not in contact with the right people.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm part of the CCC in Hamburg We will move to stockholm and I'm thinking of creating one :)
Good luck. In countries like Germany or Norway there is a culture of hacker organisations sustaining themselves financially via their members. This culture doesn't exist in Sweden, and the spaces and organisations that aren't subsidised by government funds or universities all disappear after a few years. (Source: Lived in all three countries, was active in such organisations in all three countries)
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#26Is this one of the many examples of German government wasting taxpayer's money?
Yes. This is what you get when incompetent officials jump on any offered solution that promises to make their awful track record of "digitalization" projects look better. Of course without listening to actual experts and instead looking for buzzwords.
Exhibit B: Ubirch and their 5 Blockchains
https://www.heise.de/news/Digitaler-Corona-Impfpass-IBM-Ubir...
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good luck. In countries like Germany or Norway there is a culture of hacker organisations sustaining themselves financially via their members. This culture doesn't exist in Sweden, and the spaces and organisations that aren't subsidised by government funds or universities all disappear after a few years. (Source: Lived in all three countries, was active in such organisations in all three countries)
Oh, there are tons of hackerspaces in Sweden. Its just that they are either tied to universities, startup clusters or for kids. I guess you were simply not in contact with the right people.
You're saying exactly the same thing as me: There are very few independent hacker spaces (in most cities, none), unlike in Germany and Norway where that is the norm.
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#28The Luca app really is a complete train wreck. And what's worse is that the federal governments don't even have any direct control over the app itself, they just bought access to the contact tracing data for 12 months from the company operating the app. Meanwhile the company controls the app and all connected user accounts and can repurpose it in whichever way they see fit (and they already announced they have plans…
> I wasn't a big fan of the Covid tracing app in the beginning, but in retrospect the concept of that app seems miles ahead of the current situation with the Luca app.
I think the concept behind is really solid and a great example for what is possible w/o invading privacy. The only problem is that development got very very slow after the initial release and a lot of potential was wasted. E.g. adding some kind of check in feature was already discussed mid last year but it took them until now to pick that idea up.
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#29There is so much incompetency in governmental IT/software decisions and software it's actually sad.
Is it a product of smart people simply not working in this sector or corruption?. It seems from the outside to be filled with imbeciles masquerading as administrators.
We need to somehow make the government way more accountable, if only there was an organization that could do that, we could call it the media.
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Oh, there are tons of hackerspaces in Sweden. Its just that they are either tied to universities, startup clusters or for kids. I guess you were simply not in contact with the right people.
You're saying exactly the same thing as me: There are very few independent hacker spaces (in most cities, none), unlike in Germany and Norway where that is the norm.
CCC isn't a hacker space as I understand the term. CCC is a club of security experts. hacker spaces are communal spaces where you can tinker with peers using provided tools.