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DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by matheusmoreira »

cblconfederate wrote: post #105

The best way to get ppl to stop using chrome is to fork it, and add new experimental functionality that doesnt exist in chrome. I don't know if it's feasible but missing features in new platforms (e.g. VR) will motivate people to switch and then it will become a self-reinforcing loop. Integrating metamask in the browser could be a game changerfor payments and identity management.

Brave browser is essentially Chrome with an integrated ad blocker. It also features rather unintrusive ads that compensate users with cryptocurrency for their attention and can always be turned off.

Usage seems to be growing a lot.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by qwerty456127 »

> it won't be long before people or organizations work out what FLoC IDs really mean, e.g. what interests and demographic information they are likely correlated with.

Isn't this good? I would rather set my actual interests in the browser settings! I also am upfront glad to tell them to anybody interested so we might find common interests or discover something new. The only reason I would rather hide such data actually is fingerprinting.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by itsbits »

cblconfederate wrote: post #105

The best way to get ppl to stop using chrome is to fork it, and add new experimental functionality that doesnt exist in chrome. I don't know if it's feasible but missing features in new platforms (e.g. VR) will motivate people to switch and then it will become a self-reinforcing loop. Integrating metamask in the browser could be a game changerfor payments and identity management.

There are lot of forks exist already. Microsoft Edge itself can be said as a fork. Although at present, Edge provides opt in on privacy options, we can't rely on MS product.

Will suggest to look into another forks like

Vivaldi

Brave

SRWare Iron

I started using Brave for past couple of months and don't have much of complaints related to browsing experience.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by z77dj3kl »

johnchristopher wrote: post #47
rapnie wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might say "Optimized for privacy-respecting browsers. Chrome users might experience issues [more info]"

In what way is the site "optimized for privacy-respecting browsers" ? The browser is the thing being optimized. Does it mean to say that the website operators will intentionnaly not respect privacy of Chrome users but they will for Firefox ? “Chrome users might experience issues” but what issues ? It reads like a dishonest TOS like the one used by service providers using catch-all statements to cover their backs. It…

Tested only on privacy-respecting browsers? That's what sites mean when they have these "soft" banners on non-supported browsers. If it's not tested on chrome, then users on chrome might experience issues.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by gkbrk »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #112

> it won't be long before people or organizations work out what FLoC IDs really mean, e.g. what interests and demographic information they are likely correlated with. Isn't this good? I would rather set my actual interests in the browser settings! I also am upfront glad to tell them to anybody interested so we might find common interests or discover something new. The only reason I would rather hide such data actuall…

Most likely what you mean setting interests in the browser settings (general interests) and the FLoC cohorts are on much different scales. A FLoC cohort will probably contain a few thousand people, combined with any other data points will probably be enough to uniquely identify you.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by ArneBab »

gkbrk wrote: post #81
HenryBemis wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your "about" clearly states it: Some say I argue on the internet too much, but those people are wrong. I don't know what you do/sell on said websites, but if you still have a job it means that those who hired you haven't received (enough) complaints yet.

I am not sure about that. Usually, when people only use Chrome to test and develop; Firefox/Safari users end up with problems. When someone tests on Firefox; things usually end up working on Chrome without problems. This might be due to Firefox users being more aware of standards than just "whatever runs on Chrome today", or because Google tends to ship non-standard behaviour with their browser and make it a "standar…

Do you remember the IE4-Days? DHTML? That’s what Chrome might become.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by shoto_io »

Do you really believe it’s enough to stop using Chrome? Isn’t it rather: don’t use Google services including Android?

Imagine this setup: Gmail used on mobile mail program. Surf the web with a mobile browser other than Chrome. Use Google as search engine.

FLoC will still be able to make the connection. That’s what I believe at least.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by cmeacham98 »

tngranados wrote: post #104
Communitivity wrote: post #101

I use Firefox. So does my family. Everything I make for personal use works in Firefox and I don't bother testing with anything else. However, almost every web site or web app I make in my professional capacity gets tested with, and is expected to work with, ~95% of browsers. That means testing against Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Opera, UC Browser, Samsung Internet, and Internet Explorer. Edit: I forgot to add Safari, whic…

If you are leaving out Safari you are not testing on 95% of the browsers. At least market share wise, which is the only metric that makes sense.

You are correct, but if you don't own a Mac/iPhone, you cannot test on Safari.

Re: DuckDuckGo Extension to Block FLoC, Google’s New Tracking Method in Chrome

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Post by ArneBab »

StavrosK wrote: post #106
jnxx wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But that framing is based on a false premise Another false premise is that the "old tracking" will stop because of the "new tracking".

The old tracking is stopping whether sites want to or not, since users are now wise to uBlock Origin and browsers have finally started pushing for privacy.

Too few.
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