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Due to recent decriminalizations and booming medical research, there are also some publicly traded companies one can invest in: https://psychedelicinvest.com/index/ https://www.horizonsetfs.com/etf/psyk (disclaimer: I own shares in many of these companies)
And PsilocybinAlpha[1] monitors companies in the sector.
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In what way were their minds ruined?
Not OP, but I've met people that seemed to sort of lost their agency and ambition, because their psychedelic insight was that the universe will sort everything out on its own. Though maybe the causality is the other way round here - they were not ambitious in the first place and psychedelic insight helped rationalise that. Also disclaimer: I'm not trying to discourage or encourage people from psychedelics. Personally…
I went from depressed and basically dropping off the edge of the world to traveling across the world and starting a startup with new friends in a different continent, which was just now recently acquired.
What might interest you is all the psychedelics I did were technically legal. Shoutout to 4-AcO-DMT and 4-HO-DMT.
The study was just published in the most prestigious medical journal in the world [1]. Whatever you think of the study, this is rather significant. If you told me even 2 years ago there would be a randomised trial of magic mushrooms in NEJM, I would not have believed it for even a second. One point not to miss is that they screened 1000 patients to come up with the study population of 59. Nevertheless, I consider the…
I have a friend who has experienced magic mushrooms recreationally about half a dozen times in her 20s. After each trip she reported feeling clear headed and more mindful - she described it as though her mind's harddrive had been defragmented. Fast forward 10 years and that same friend felt low during lockdown over the past 12 months. After reading up online she decided to try microdosing mushrooms rather than the ma…
I used to think this but I think society has figured out something better. It has figured out that many people can use drugs effectively and many people are worthless on drugs. So what it does is that it allows you to use as many drugs as possible when you're something like a high-income professional and sort of criminalizes drug use among working class people. Your "test" for being a safe drug user is to have a lot…
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I know a lot of people whose minds were ruined by psychedelics. It’s something you will see when you spend time in those communities. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but it’s common.
Most likely because they have done normal or high doses too frequently.
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This is my experience too. I’ve been microdosing about 1.3mg on and off during lockdown. The effects are subtle and hard to describe but I’d say it’s like ‘opening your mind’ or reframing your point of view on things. Definitely different from other drugs which just pump you with serotonin
It temporarily breaks you out of your established mental framework. It's as if your raw consciousness viewing the world without any of the filters that we all use to tune out the noise. That's why the experience can be overwhelming and chaotic and it's useful to be in a safe place with a trip sitter. I think the magic comes when you discover that something your default mindset was filtering out as noise is actually s…
What you described sounds very similar to the effects of mindfulness meditation. The idea in a sense is to increase awareness - that is, sensing the world as is, without the filters or influence of mental objects. The theory is that meditation can then help you free yourself of past negative conditioning that is no longer relevant and to be more present.
It would be interesting to see more studies on both, but I understand that many things to do with the mind and subjective experiences are difficult to measure and therefore to study.
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Most likely because they have done normal or high doses too frequently.
Definitely not the case for the people I know. One trip caused permanent psychosis in one case.
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In what way were their minds ruined?
Any psychadelics (and I think cannabis as well, but much more rarely) can cause a psychotic break, which can’t always be recovered from. It seems to be more prevalent if there is a family history of psychosis. No source, just anecdata, the circles I run in.
When you add all the other scheduled drugs that have no state level recreational framework, then you no studies and you also have a compounded supply chain problem where nobody knows what they’re actually consuming
There are molecule combinations out there which can cause instant parkinson’s disease
nobody can give a real case about “the friend of friend” who went crazy because of the illegality and imagined or real liability
and its not fair to say “this drug is perfectly safe stop fearmongering, oh wait you should have known about your family history of schizophrenia never mind then lol too late, but everyone else dont listen to that person” this isn’t directed at you, just a collection of things said in the psychadelic community pretty reliably
bothersome.
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Most likely because they have done normal or high doses too frequently.
Definitely not the case for the people I know. One trip caused permanent psychosis in one case.
ever notice how all these stories lack that?
all?
look, don’t respond to why that might be, but lets just all push for the study and a legal framework that allows for said studies to exist
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You'd want to be clear on how much of that was caused by the setting in which they took psychedelics before making a pronouncement.
Setting is definitely important, as is choice. One of the big problems with illegal psychedelics is that people aren't sure what they are getting. For instance, DOB and MDMA both come in pill form, but have wildly different effects. Some of the worst outcomes I've seen have come when one drug is believed to be another, and this is something that decriminalisation would definitely help with. That being said, psychedel…
no only recreational legalization would do that