YouTube suspends account for linking to a PhD research on WPA2 vulnerability

Post by MereInterest » Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 1:04 PM UTC

intrasight wrote: post #70

m_a_g wrote: post #4

>Anyhow, I truly believe humanity has to rollback to operating at a human scale. >Using algorithms to flag content is totally fine… problem is when humans cannot interact with humans anymore and AI gets to chose what is right and wrong. Can't agree more.

I'm of the complete opposite opinion. I look forward to the day when our machine overlords make all decisions. Humans are assholes with their own nefarious agendas. Machines are not. Of course if the day comes where machines ask for bribes then I'll change my opinion ;)

Post by Thaxll » Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 1:07 PM UTC

ylere wrote: post #51

qayxc wrote: post #32

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That's basically what the author suggests when they say: > Anyhow, I truly believe humanity has to rollback to operating at a human scale. It's impossible to operate a complaints-platform on a global scale if it's run by humans. According to GMI [0], 500 hours of content are uploaded every minute. Given an average video duration of about 12 minutes [1], that would be 2500 videos per hour. That's just too much to manu…

Is it though? Let's do a very rough estimate: 500 hours of content per minute in 2019, lets say 1 reviewer can review 3 hours of video each hour (by increasing play speed/skipping etc.) and we have a global workforce in lower income countries working 3x 8 hour shifts + weekends. That's 500 60/3 3 = 30000 reviewers, at a monthly cost of $1000 that's 30000 1000 12*7/5 = $504m/year. Youtube had $15b in revenues in 2019,…

Post by infogulch » Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 1:08 PM UTC

PedroBatista wrote: post #8

YouTube, like most of the "Internet" these days it's just a shopping center. It appears to be the Universe because these sites/companies are so massive but at the end of the day it's their turf and they do what they want. Now, once they reach a certain scale, why are they allowed to operate like a "normal small company"?

Post by colejohnson66 » Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 1:12 PM UTC

ttt0 wrote: post #54

b3kart wrote: post #16

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The thing is, we have to make sure we're OK with the consequences of going this way. Would people be happy to wait for days, maybe weeks, for their video to be approved for upload to YouTube? Would that work with the current society's attention span? Is YouTube as we know it actually feasible without AI-based moderation? Can it be a sustainable business with an army of human moderators and/or a drastically reduced sc…

> The thing is, we have to make sure we're OK with the consequences of going this way. Would people be happy to wait for days, maybe weeks, for their video to be approved for upload to YouTube? Or they could just stop doing that and go back to how it used to be. Let people upload videos and review them only after it was flagged. Novel idea, I know.

Post by colejohnson66 » Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 1:13 PM UTC

ghaff wrote: post #56

foepys wrote: post #22

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Tech is very special in a way where they can get away with claiming that quite a lot is not possible at their scale. Imagine this for other industries. "We cannot do quality control before sending products out. We make too much stuff." "We don't check all tickets for the venue. Too many people." "Cleaning the entire building is not possible. It's too much space."

And those things are paid for. It would be perfectly reasonable if you had to pay per minute for uploading video and people had to pay for a subscription to watch it. That's just not what is expected for a mass platform today.