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China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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That's ridiculous.China is the one in irreversible decline.

Most people in the West get to enjoy freedom and access to utilities money cant buy in China.

1) For once most people in the west have access to safe and good tap water.Chinese urban dwellers dont.

2) Most people in the west live in places with significantly better air quality than chinese.

3) Most people in the west get to enjoy freedoms chinese cant even talk about

4) West is attracting young people from all around the world.

Chinese middle class will demand the same standard of living like people in the West and CCP will be unable to give it to them.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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They are probably not wrong. When you look at the infighting within the US that is front page news every day...the decline is in full swing. People care less about how to actually improve the country than they do about trying to hold entire professions accountable for the actions of a few (not just cops)...then we are focused on the wrong things. Spending hundreds of days protesting something instead of putting that time toward actually cleaning up neighborhoods or tutoring underprivileged youth and it's all a waste. Defund the police...just emboldened the criminals and caused more death than anything the police have done. 17 people have been killed by Police in Portland between 2013 and 2020...so far in 2021 there have been more homicides in Portland than there were in 2017 and 2018 and we are on track for over 100 homicides this year.

The US became a super power in the last 200 years...and the focus should be maintaining our competitive edge and working where there will be benefit.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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"ITS GAZE fixed on the prize of becoming rich and strong, China has spent the past 40 years as a risk-averse bully. Quick to inflict pain on smaller powers, it has been more cautious around any country capable of punching back."

The same could be said about the United States' behavior on the international scene these past decades.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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If someone happened to agree with this analysis and was bearish on western liberalism, is there a place they should put their money in order to potentially profit?

No, there isn't. The best you could do is disassociate from any criticisms you have made about CCP. Better yet, start a pro-CCP newsletter in substack, and hope for the best.

Institutions like Apple, the NBA and the corporate press embraced this strategy a while ago. They echo CCP talking points about how terrible the US is, while largely ignoring factory worker conditions, Hong Kong and the ongoing Uyghur genocide.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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lol - they aren't just betting - they are aiding and abetting through their sycophants in the media, academia and amazingly big business too.

While we argue about right/left/dem/republican they continue to divide and conquer through attrition. And we are letting it happen right under our collective noses.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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It's very hard to disagree IMO. The west is in decline and unless something catastrophic happens in PRC or war breaks out (also pretty catastrophic) I can't see any future where the PRC isn't going to at least become on par with the US soon but most likely it will succeed it as top dog. The only question in my mind is where do the EU end up in all this and if Russia will become closer with PRC or EU. IMO the biggest…

Unless Russia gets another revolution, it's likely to remain its own pole. It has a sphere of influence, exports that its neighbours are dependant on, and an ossified political structure.

Re: China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

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The west is in decline because progressive values don't promote strength. They focus on class and are inherently divisive. Ironically, they only blossom in strong societies. The decline will allow other societies with a more conservative philosophy to take over and it will be their turn in a few centuries to succumb to the same tragedy. The baizuo tragedy.

I hate to break it to you, but progressive values aren't why the dictators of the world walked all over the US for the past 4 years.
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