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CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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> U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and other officials have warned about the use of cryptocurrencies for illicit transactions. Wait until you hear about cash. More seriously (and hopefully less reductionist) i feel nations who embrace cryptocurrencies early will see mixed results as the landscape matures. I am more confident that nations which turn their back on it, or shut it out completely, will see a loss of o…

>Wait until you hear about cash.

What if I told you the Treasury Secretary doesn't think your book keeping system in the same as legal tender?

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Tangentially related. Cryptocurrency is just a side effect of blockchain. Once blockchain technology matures and if one day we see blockchain to store files and blockchain to run cloud services, then will the US government censor it as well? If they will, how? It is practically impossible. You can upload anything there, including child porn, instructions on making bombs, videos that contain brainwashing propaganda fo…

My stance is: forget about this "blockchain" rhetoric thing. What was interesting for cryptocurrencies was the ability of producing scarce, unique, digital assets. That was groundbreaking. Then other cryptocurrencies expanded on that.

Write only data structures themselves are not new and not that valuable on their own.

But the interesting thing is the decentralized, trustless structures it enables. And just pinning that on blockchain sounds bad.

This whole things is still early and it is the basis of _a lot_ of speculation. But I see this whole ecosystem enabling a whole new class of self-governing communities, websites and structures, some good, some bad.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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> U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and other officials have warned about the use of cryptocurrencies for illicit transactions. Wait until you hear about cash. More seriously (and hopefully less reductionist) i feel nations who embrace cryptocurrencies early will see mixed results as the landscape matures. I am more confident that nations which turn their back on it, or shut it out completely, will see a loss of o…

> Whatever your stance on cryptocurrencies are, what is of little dispute is the business opportunities they have created. Binance and Coinbase are large, successful companies. Poloniex was sold for ~400M. I find this argument a little weird, because I think we can all agree that bubbles and fad tech isn't really great for society as a whole. If you believe cryptocurrencies aren't a fad and actually provide useful be…

Crypto is a better version of gold and a store of wealth that whose supply isn't at the whims of central banks.

Gold has a purpose. Central banks may pretend that gold serves no purpose in a modern economy, but they still hold on to trillions in gold. I hope eventually they'll get around to holding a crypto currency like Bitcoin. They're just upset they don't have a head start in accumulating a reserve.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

#154

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I believe that is exact where the value of bitcoin is: because any nations will not giving up their own currency. Bitcoin is anti-establishment. Of course, the real test will only happen when some country start banning bitcoin. No one knows what's going to happen.

It will only prove Bitoin holders right.

lol, it will prove them broke. The overwhelming majority of people own bitcoin because number go up. Banning it will make number not go up. This will cause them to divest. Substantially nobody is in it for the ancap utopia espoused by $20 transaction fees and 30 minute long confirmation times.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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I never said all-in Tether. Also you cant "cash out" a billion dollar of anything. Its completely absurd, no one has a bank account with a billion dollar on it. It also make zero sense to ever do that. Its completely irrelevant if that is or isn't possible with coin XY if there is nothing you could move it into. The only reason someone would cash out a billion is if he wants to invest it into something. What could th…

Eh, when the Archegos fund leveraged at $100B collapsed a few weeks ago, many banks cashed out many billions. It made the news because they gave lots of leverage to a big gambler, not because that event in any macroeconomic sense mattered at all.

>banks

The entities where almost everyones non-physical assets is stored. Yes, they can indeed do things private person cant do.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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> U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and other officials have warned about the use of cryptocurrencies for illicit transactions. Wait until you hear about cash. More seriously (and hopefully less reductionist) i feel nations who embrace cryptocurrencies early will see mixed results as the landscape matures. I am more confident that nations which turn their back on it, or shut it out completely, will see a loss of o…

>Binance and Coinbase are large, successful companies

I don't think you should group Binance with Coinbase. Binance is mostly unregulated, literally on the run, refusing to admit where it is headquartered[0], possibly because it avoiding paying taxes.

It seems like more and more likely that Binance is just a mechanism for CZ to exit via a massive BNB pump and dump.

[0]https://www.coindesk.com/binance-doesnt-have-a-headquarters-...

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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I liked the take from the Mayor of Miami (from a podcast about cryptocurrency): "they [governments] will have to borrow money like everybody else borrows money, they can't just print their own money. They have to borrow money at an interest rate. And if governments don't behave fiscally then they are going to have to borrow at worse and worse rates. They can't just invent their own interest rates and currency, which…

There is a (seemingly growing) number of people that openly say that the budget doesn't matter. You just print and spend. Fortunately this incentivizes finding ways to circumvent that regime and point out how absurd it is.

Yes, and that the only point of taxes is to reduce inflation, since the govt doesn't need taxes anyway since it can print money. Taxes don't even cover the cost of govt expenditures so it makes sense.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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> Whatever your stance on cryptocurrencies are, what is of little dispute is the business opportunities they have created. Binance and Coinbase are large, successful companies. Poloniex was sold for ~400M. This is the broken window fallacy writ large. The small value cryptocurrencies provide over other digital transaction methods is overshadowed by the huge inefficiencies of how transactions are processed via PoW. Th…

> The small value cryptocurrencies provide over other digital transaction methods I’m not aware of any other digital transaction methods that can send un-printable money besides cryptos. I think devaluing currency to inflate stocks and fund wars is harmful, and cryptos are a valuable solution. Although, I think there’s better than PoW.

> I’m not aware of any other digital transaction methods that can send un-printable money besides cryptos.

That's because it's not a useful feature heh. Money is meant to be a medium of exchange and temporary store of value. To the extent it holds its value for the duration of your ownership of it, it's met its goal.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

#159

> U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and other officials have warned about the use of cryptocurrencies for illicit transactions. Wait until you hear about cash. More seriously (and hopefully less reductionist) i feel nations who embrace cryptocurrencies early will see mixed results as the landscape matures. I am more confident that nations which turn their back on it, or shut it out completely, will see a loss of o…

>Whatever your stance on cryptocurrencies are, what is of little dispute is the business opportunities they have created. Binance and Coinbase are large, successful companies. What business opportunities have been created outside of the crypto space? > i feel nations who embrace cryptocurrencies early will see mixed results as the landscape matures. They may also leave themselves open to these currencies being manipu…

>What business opportunities have been created outside of the crypto space?

They're probably just talking about all the pickaxe selling. NFTs are possibly an answer if you assume good faith and not just speculation.

Re: CEO of a top Bitcoin exchange warns: crackdown on cryptocurrencies may be coming

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> Whatever your stance on cryptocurrencies are, what is of little dispute is the business opportunities they have created. Binance and Coinbase are large, successful companies. Poloniex was sold for ~400M. I find this argument a little weird, because I think we can all agree that bubbles and fad tech isn't really great for society as a whole. If you believe cryptocurrencies aren't a fad and actually provide useful be…

Take crypto out of the equation, what are the implications of the fed issuing a programmable currency? Many financial services would become obsolete. What do I need a stock broker for? What do I need a bank for? You have Wall St and other sophisticated investors profiteering and competing against the general public, devaluing our purchasing power, making leveraged trades because they know the public will hold the bag…

Why are you asking this question here? While I agree with this idea, it has nothing to do with crypto.
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