I think in the near future, working at Facebook will probably have same stigma as working for Philipp Morris or similar...
Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
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Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#92Azerbaijan is not poor or small, please change the submission title , it s insulting
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#93The Guardian, and a few other outfits in global media sold its readership very hard on the "Gadhafi killing his own people" fallacy to enable Islamist gangs to plunder and maim and kill and ruin the societal fabric of Libya (and a few southern neighbors). Since then, Libya is a wasteland, its inhabitants enslaved as a whole (as opposed to the few political (read Islamists) prisoners' under the Gadhafi dictatorship),…
I've learnt those blaming the evil "MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!!!!" are rarely worth listening to. You know why it's mainstream? Because it's nuanced, and well-researched and run by actual real-life journalists. You know what you're left with when the media is no longer mainstream? The extremes.
> You know why it's mainstream? Because it's nuanced, and well-researched
Ahem.
“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
"In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
― Michael Crichton
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#94ITT: folks whose livelihood depends on that Facebook Ads campaign manager payout, vs. those of us who would rather live in a world free from this sort of manipulation. DAE miss AOL?
A lot of people may also be supporting the regimes of those countries
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've learnt those blaming the evil "MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!!!!" are rarely worth listening to. You know why it's mainstream? Because it's nuanced, and well-researched and run by actual real-life journalists. You know what you're left with when the media is no longer mainstream? The extremes.
> You know why it's mainstream? Because it's nuanced, and well-researched Ahem. “Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presen…
This is really all there is to it. Yet the naïve would still want to ask why, as in what's the motivation of pushing baloney? The answer is in another question: is there an industry more entrenched at the intersection of power/control/money?
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#96The Guardian has more coverage in this article, which was published at the same time: "How Facebook let fake engagement distort global politics: a whistleblower's account" - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/12/facebook-... It's interesting how Guy Rosen, a co-founder of the spyware company Onavo, is now Facebook's "vice-president of integrity": > Facebook had “moved slower than we’d like because of pri…
> It's interesting how Guy Rosen, a co-founder of the spyware company Onavo, is now Facebook's "vice-president of integrity" Sounds like a bad joke.
Imagine Radiohead's Creep playing on the background and it fits perfectly.
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#97Azerbaijan is not poor or small, please change the submission title , it s insulting
Poor and Small are comparatives.
Compared to the UK, USA, France, Italy, Germany, China, Russia and on and on: Azerbaijan is poor and small.
It ranks 112th in the world for size, 99th for population, 86th for GDP.
When comparing things, especially when it's relevant to the subject (facebook doesn't care about comparatively small and poor countries) then it is not offensive.
Unless you want to take offence.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
So at any given moment, we're only allowed to criticize one thing - the worst thing in the entire world? After all, anything else is, you know, not that bad.
He did not say “don’t criticize” he said to “lay off the hate” which to me means make sure your criticism is measured and reasonable. Laying off the hate is likely just good advice all the time.
What is the unit of measurement for criticism? As a metrology nerd this is a very important question.
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Humans are easily manipulated, I agree with you. Contrast the multi-faced manipulation from an aggregator like FB with the power of the unified worldview given to you by the media conglomerates.
So who are the non-MSM in your opinion? Facebook is more than merely and aggregator. They know how to keep peoples' eyes glued to them. They know what stories/narratives will push your buttons so to speak.
I am sorry I can't answer your question: I read many many sources (from big name media to small time bloggers), contrast and apply common sense. I know my limitations to access the 'truth', and I live with that, always in doubt.
That said, regarding Facebook, I genuinely never used it really (I have a placeholder account), never used Instagram, never used Messenger, never installed any of these apps on my phone, never log into these web apps on my PC. I use WhatsApp constantly to communicate with friends and family across the world.
Re: Facebook slow to address political manipulation outside wealthy, western nations
#100The Guardian, and a few other outfits in global media sold its readership very hard on the "Gadhafi killing his own people" fallacy to enable Islamist gangs to plunder and maim and kill and ruin the societal fabric of Libya (and a few southern neighbors). Since then, Libya is a wasteland, its inhabitants enslaved as a whole (as opposed to the few political (read Islamists) prisoners' under the Gadhafi dictatorship),…
> Lay the FB 'hate' aside, will ya? For all its dehumanizing power (as much as the rest of 'social media' and technology in general) FB has not committed the 1/10000th of the harm these champions of virtue in the MSM have done for the last couple centuries
All the problems you list with legacy media are true but also have a clear expiration date as these outlets are usually money losers. Meanwhile Facebook looks like it's here to stay.