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Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

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Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#31

how can any american or israeli support saying "stuxnet" in a normal way of conversation when it is a weapon used against another country with disastrous effects all the while latching on to "wiping israel off the map" which is something i'm told the guy didn't say.

Both America and Israel are settler-colonial states, this is par for the course.

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

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post #29

"Few nations like the idea of Iran enhancing its nuclear capabilities" Lol. No nation in over a decade likes this idea except for maybe North Korea. Sure Israel has always been the most vocal, but Iran having the bomb is an international liability. Even the Sunni Arabs stripes have changed. Common enemies make strange bedfellows. Also, the Iranians have been willing to flex against their neighbors more recently. See…

Why shouldn't Iran have access to nuclear power, or nuclear weapons for that matter?

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#33
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't secret at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natanz#Nuclear_facility

Stupid question, but why isn’t it bombed (or all trucks coming/leaving targeted)? As far as I know, it is “illegal” (whatever the international equivalent is) to attempt to acquire the nuclear bomb. Which triggers the question, how did France obtain leniency from international powers when it gave the nuclear bomb to Israel in the 1960ies? Who decides what is legal? And who decides that Iran’s facility is not “slated…

It is only illegal if you signed the nuclear non prolifiration treaty.

Anyway Iran with the bomb is a good thing if you don't want another war in the middle-east.

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#34
post #29

"Few nations like the idea of Iran enhancing its nuclear capabilities" Lol. No nation in over a decade likes this idea except for maybe North Korea. Sure Israel has always been the most vocal, but Iran having the bomb is an international liability. Even the Sunni Arabs stripes have changed. Common enemies make strange bedfellows. Also, the Iranians have been willing to flex against their neighbors more recently. See…

Why shouldn't Iran have access to nuclear power, or nuclear weapons for that matter?

Its actually quite weird. Israel, France, the UK, and the USA all saying Iran cannot have nuclear weapons while all having nuclear weapons themselves (and the USA having used it on two civilian populations).

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#35

The Israelis have pretty much come out and said that they were responsible. They’re trying to sabatoge talks because Israel would collapse if it didn’t have an external enemy.

Iran might collapse, but Israel wouldn't. They might focus more on the internal corruption though.

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

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post #13

Interesting to see the contrast in coverage from a European outlet: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/11/israel-appears... "Israel appeared to confirm" vs "evidence is thin".

Aren't both websites British?

Ah I didn't realise that. My mistake

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#38
post #29

"Few nations like the idea of Iran enhancing its nuclear capabilities" Lol. No nation in over a decade likes this idea except for maybe North Korea. Sure Israel has always been the most vocal, but Iran having the bomb is an international liability. Even the Sunni Arabs stripes have changed. Common enemies make strange bedfellows. Also, the Iranians have been willing to flex against their neighbors more recently. See…

Why shouldn't Iran have access to nuclear power, or nuclear weapons for that matter?

It is entitled to nuclear power (and indeed help from nuclear weapons states in developing that technology) under the terms of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (to which it is a signatory). That is the same reason it is not entitled to nuclear weapons.

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't Iran have access to nuclear power, or nuclear weapons for that matter?

Its actually quite weird. Israel, France, the UK, and the USA all saying Iran cannot have nuclear weapons while all having nuclear weapons themselves (and the USA having used it on two civilian populations).

That's my point.

Only one nation has ever demonstrated and itchy trigger finger when it comes to these weapons.

Maybe you could make a case that having these weapons would make them more hostile/expansionist/aggressive. It certainly has merit considering what the US has been up to since 1945.

Re: Stuxnet sibling theory surges after Iran says nuke facility shut down

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn't Iran have access to nuclear power, or nuclear weapons for that matter?

Its actually quite weird. Israel, France, the UK, and the USA all saying Iran cannot have nuclear weapons while all having nuclear weapons themselves (and the USA having used it on two civilian populations).

It's not weird at all. It is what Iran (and almost every country) voluntarily agreed to under the terms of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferatio...

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