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Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by taejo »

OldHand2018 wrote: post #461
atulatul wrote: post #94

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You get the tele-message (not a telegram) from the Queen when you turn 100. But it seems you have to apply for it. https://youtu.be/7Quyte7zN70?list=PLkX9Ba6AAK_2g3Y9Y8MdLbbcT...

For people in the states, you can get appropriate cards from the White House for important occasions. I sent Bill Clinton an invitation to my high school graduation party, and got a letter back from the White House telling me to work hard in college. But mailing a birth announcement to the White House is a much better idea. They send a card back to the child welcoming them to the world. You can file it away and then…

In Germany, the first letter a child gets is one that gets sent automatically, assigning them a tax number. A letter from the President is much nicer. However, German parents can apply for the President to be the honorary godfather of their seventh child.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by simonh »

F1Qy94GJ55 wrote: post #464
simonh wrote: post #428

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Let's just say it tells us an awful lot more about you than it does about him.

Am sorry if this touched a nerve because not everyone sees the British royal family as perhaps you do, I suppose I cannot reward service and loyalty to a cause alone, specially when the cause was colonization and oppression of many many other people.

Personally I see them as a somewhat irrelevant but harmless relic of a bygone era, about which I am largely indifferent. Philip certainly had his flaws, but he was also a brave and resourceful man. The only way he directly touched my life is that both my daughters took part in the Duke of Edinburgh Awards Scheme, which they thoroughly enjoyed and had a very positive influence on their lives.

Thanks Phil.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by callamdelaney »

teachrdan wrote: post #456
callamdelaney wrote: post #447

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Most of those comments are / were vitriolic. Basically attacking Prince Philip because of status rather than any legitimate criticism of him as a person. I'd guess this is why - it's not facebook.

Broadly speaking, the HN readership supports entrepreneurship, novel ideas and transparency; as a result, it tends to be critical of inherited wealth, entrenched institutions and arbitrary and opaque power. The royal family in England embodies all of the latter.[0] Of course there are exceptions! Most people are empathetic and few openly celebrate the death of a 99-year-old. But I think it's fair to say that a large…

Dan, the wealth of the monarchy is widely known; it owns billions in assets - graciously it donated the proceeds of these assets to directly to the treasury. They are literally net contributors on the basis of this alone.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by pseudalopex »

yardstick wrote: post #438
pseudalopex wrote: post #421

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The French Republic is the number 1 tourist destination in the world. The UK is number 10 with less than half as many visitors. The only other monarchies in the top 10 are Spain and Thailand.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

So what you are saying is without the monarchy more or less people would visit the UK? London hosts more visitors than Paris[1], although France overall hosts more visitors than the UK. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_internatio...

I'm saying the implication the royals are important to tourism should be quantified and supported.

The city statistics include business travel. And I don't know what point you're trying to make with them.

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Post by Rule35 »

cratermoon wrote: post #330
koboll wrote: post #177

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Once you get Internet access, legitimate cargo cultism probably fades quite quickly. Why revere John Frum when Jeff Bezos lets you buy in one click?

QAnon has entered the chat

It seems more like WallStreetBets' thing. Pay the islanders to build a giant statue to a Doge.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by F1Qy94GJ55 »

simonh wrote: post #482
F1Qy94GJ55 wrote: post #464

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Am sorry if this touched a nerve because not everyone sees the British royal family as perhaps you do, I suppose I cannot reward service and loyalty to a cause alone, specially when the cause was colonization and oppression of many many other people.

Personally I see them as a somewhat irrelevant but harmless relic of a bygone era, about which I am largely indifferent. Philip certainly had his flaws, but he was also a brave and resourceful man. The only way he directly touched my life is that both my daughters took part in the Duke of Edinburgh Awards Scheme, which they thoroughly enjoyed and had a very positive influence on their lives. Thanks Phil.

> somewhat irrelevant but harmless relic of a bygone era, about which I am largely indifferent.

Many old people, still alive, lived a good chunk of their lives in what was a British colony then and he was the prince then too. Neither was it that far back in history, nor was it harmless :) You can be indifferent like many others and celebrate the British monarchy, but I suppose I cannot, like many others.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by Rule35 »

nprateem wrote: post #371
arminiusreturns wrote: post #352

I wonder if he will get to be reincarnated as a deadly virus that contributes to the "overpopulation problem" like he wished. (yes, for real) I find the many servile and naive responses here really quite pathetic. The man was evil both personally and as part of the structure of the monarchy. I understand that many simply don't know about his history, either as outsiders with a strange fascination with royalty but onl…

Let's not forget he was (allegedly) famously racist

Did he ... do anything ... that is racist? Like, ban blue people from medical service? Refuse to play Foxes and Hounds with green people?

Because then you wouldn't have to say allegedly.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by Y_Y »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #227
bidirectional wrote: post #90

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Why does it signify that? I mean they probably are, but it also seems like the logical step to worship his heir?

They worshiped Philip because he visited and made a real impact on their life. To my knowledge, Charles hasn't done that, their only connection to him is through the journalists worshipping Philip has attracted. Logically, someone like Karl Pilkington should be the replacement.

> Anne, Princess Royal, visited Tanna Island in October 2014. She is the only daughter of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.

She sounds like a good candidate to me.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by DanBC »

Rule35 wrote: post #487
nprateem wrote: post #371

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Let's not forget he was (allegedly) famously racist

Did he ... do anything ... that is racist? Like, ban blue people from medical service? Refuse to play Foxes and Hounds with green people? Because then you wouldn't have to say allegedly.

He's dead, and so you don't need to say allegedly, because dead people can't sue for defamation.

Re: Prince Philip has died

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Post by ben_w »

teachrdan wrote: post #452
ksec wrote: post #391

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>their wealth and privilege may make up for it. These Royals cant spent their wealth like billionaires either. So wealth certainly isn't a thing to be worth considering. And I mean if that is all the stuff we could tell and see, imagine all the other things we dont. In a modern world, most people, even in the high middle class wouldn't want to trade what they have to what is considered to be privilege as Royal.

> cant spend their wealth like billioaires What would they spend it on? Fancy houses? Private transport around the world? Lavish vacations? They get all of those things for free already. I suppose it wouldn't do for Prince Charles to buy a 200' yacht. But other than that, I'm not sure how much he, or any other royal, is suffering for not being able to spend their wealth like the rest of the 0.1%.

Once you get over about $10 million per family member, you can have essentially any house, holiday, or private transport you desire.

Spending like billionaires means political power or privately funded moonshot projects.

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