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That's gunna be a 'no' from me, dawg.
As opposed to Prince Philip's, no one cares about your opinion.
I don't care.
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#282Because Prince Charles is heir to the throne (and has been portrayed more negatively in the news media than any other living person), some in the HN community may be surprised to know that he wrote a book on philosophy . https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-New-Way-Looking-World/dp/0061... I found the book to be astonishingly good. It takes a design approach to Platonism and western esotericism. It goes deep into "sacred g…
"sacred geometry", esoteric, Pythagorean and holistic? It certainly sounds freemasonry-like. Was he a Freemason?
Uh. What?
Sacred Geometry is an ancient Greek concept that has nothing to do with Freemasons. Pythagoras was the most famous person to push it. It's that thing where they thought the world was made out of the Platonic solids, tried to explain the planetary orbits in terms of polygons, et cetera. It remained huge through Greece and Italy until the 1400s. The Leonardo piece "Vitruvian Man," where the guy has his arms at a couple of angles, and all the describing shapes behind him? That's Sacred Geometry. People used to think those shapes were evidence of design by God.
This was extremely common throughout Europe, especially in Christian churches and cathedrals (much like Islamic) until the late 1400s, when an Italian named Alberti wrote a book that basically pushed religious architecture forward 100 years in ability to make safe large buildings.
That book pushed for a return to circles and the cross, and most of Europe followed. However, that was also 60 years before the Anglican split, and about how long it took things to move from one end of a continent to another back then, so when it was getting to England, England decided to say that the rest of Europe was losing the beat, and stuck to the more complex Greek styled visuals
Most of Europe removed the Sacred Geometry, but England (and Italy) kept theirs. England in particular sees this as a tie to historic legitimacy; one of the things that makes Their Church Different And Better (tm). "We didn't forget the old ways" kind of thing.
Freemasonry? This isn't the Flintstones.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reaction to some model complaining on TV is not why MOST people hate the british monarchy. Personally my grandmother's civilian ship was fired on by the british navy because ... well fun!
British Navy incident........hatred of the royal family. Not entirely sure where the connection between the two is. Maybe it’s misplaced anger
Others in this thread say that a key purpose of the monarchy is as a unifying symbol, if so then this seems like fair game.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, did he say something about the atrocities then? In a very public role as the moral backbone of the nation? Did he apologize? I missed that.
By no means am I defending colonialism, least of all the British Empire in India. I’m an Indian, FWIW. I see two main obstacles to this apology. 1. Teaching kids history. Currently British kids learn all about Henry VIII’s wives ... and then it’s straight to the World Wars. It’s hard to tell a nation of 70 million people to reckon with their past when they know nothing about it. 2. Philip himself was quite old. He gr…
> a time when the Empire was a great thing, something that helped resist the tides of Nazism.
I feel like "The Empire was great otherwise we would all be living under Naziism" is a poor take.
It assumes that whatever features of the world existed then must have been necessary to accomplish whatever was accomplished.
Imagine the US was still a British colony, and Hitler was still defeated. It would stand to reason then, that it was because the US was still a British colony that Hitler was defeated, right?
In a made-up timeline when Britain had already voluntarily broken up the empire, we're in a very different world, once that perhaps wouldn't include Germany trying to expand its power and/or wouldn't have felt itself under threat from the surrounding pre-WWI European empires.
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#285“The official website of the Royal Family is temporarily unavailable while appropriate changes are made.“ Nicely poetic approach to put the website in a sort of mourning state. Curious what changes need to be made.
They've been ready for years. None.
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#286Sixty five years as the husband of the head of state of a G7, nuclear armed nation, that brought the world Thatcherite individualism and the first cracks in the EU. Philip, like it or not, wielded influence and power beyond his constitutional station. One doesn’t have to like him, but one should respect him.
Wow, why should I respect that this unelected aristocrat "wielded great influence beyond his station"?
Respect here doesn’t mean admire. It means you shouldn’t underestimate or treat dismissively. The way you respect an opponent (though you might also admire them)
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reaction to some model complaining on TV is not why MOST people hate the british monarchy. Personally my grandmother's civilian ship was fired on by the british navy because ... well fun!
British Navy incident........hatred of the royal family. Not entirely sure where the connection between the two is. Maybe it’s misplaced anger
In the same way a person in modern Afghanistan might hate the American government for being at a wedding where a drone strike happened; seems pretty straightforward to me :)
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#289Cool, let’s put every monarch in a grave.
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#290This is an actual honest question; why is this on hacker news?
Because libertarian technologists are attracted to power and rules. Vote me down, but the comments bear me out.