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Signal Is a Government Op

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Re: Signal Is a Government Op

#51

> As you can see from the way Parler was shutdown last week — when our imperial oligarchy wants to cancel an app, it can do so instantly and with a vengeance. I was not under the impression that Parler was shut down by the government, but more by the "cancel crowd". Was it a government operation ? As for the article, it seems the main arguments are that : - Signal was financed by Radio Free Asia (US government propag…

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Re: Signal Is a Government Op

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve never used Telegram. What am I missing? WhatsApp is simple and works really well for what I’m using it for, keeping in touch with friends and family.

It's a great tool to keep in touch with family. For secure and private communication? Not so much unless you believe Facebook is a pillar of privacy and truth and you follow the "I have nothing to hide" fallacy.

Thanks, that’s my sense of it too. However the other poster seemed to claim the experience of using Signal and WhatsApp is ”unbearable” compared to Telegram, so I wonder what it has in terms of features or user experience that makes it so much better. My guess, and pardon me if I’m a bit rude, is that the difference is features I probably don’t care about. But I’m open to be evangelized.

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

#54
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_...

CALEA legally obligates Signal to provide the government a lawful interception methodology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Collection_System_Netw...

If Signal is a government op or not is unclear but it's also unnecessary. All Americans by definition do not have privacy because the government can snoop. Signal pretty much doesnt need to be a government OP.

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

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I’ve tried Signal multiple times but after Telegram it’s like moving from Facebook to MySpace from 2004. No, thank you. I’m kinda surprised people are not annoyed by Signal or WhatsApp and keep using them, to me they’re simply unbearable.

I want to like Telegram, I really do. But even with the "privacy" settings as strict as possible, I get unsolicited messages from random strangers at all hours of the day with no ability to mute them. I get 2-3 of these messages per day on both of my Telegram accounts. I don't know how anyone can consider Telegram private or trustworthy.

I'm using Telegram since 2014 and I never had issues with random people sending me messages of any kind. Maybe your phone number leaks somewhere?

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

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I made a mistake in submitting this and I apologise. I should have read the blog post more carefully.

No need, we are all intelligent here. Maybe the sources are a bit lacklustre but it still opens up for a really interesting conversation. I mean maybe someone would approve of the US government supporting free speech in lets say China. That is it is very possible that the government is supporting this covertly but with good intentions.

Even if the article isn't factually correct or even clickbait it can still be food for thought and a good starting point for a discussion?

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

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Too positive. From a cryptographical perspective the protocol is solid. The problem is that if you are actually using signal to transmit sensitive (as in worth a lot of money,peoples lives, state secrets) information you are making a huge mistake. Sure no one is going to break your communication on the network. But what they are going to do is use a zero day, get into your phone and extract the signal message db and…

That is a risk with everything, it is turtles all the way down. There are not 'better solutions' available for the general public out there and anyone who claims otherwise is selling snake oil. What Signal (and similar efforts like Riot/Matrix/etc) offer is the ability to drastically raise the cost of targeting an individual and eliminate almost all risks from bulk dragnet operations. If you, specifically you, are th…

Yeah and corporate espionage is still a thing.

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

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post #14

I’ve tried Signal multiple times but after Telegram it’s like moving from Facebook to MySpace from 2004. No, thank you. I’m kinda surprised people are not annoyed by Signal or WhatsApp and keep using them, to me they’re simply unbearable.

Yeah, Telegram is way ahead of everything else in terms of usability. Also it isn't a resource hog like everything Facebook.

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

#59

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_... CALEA legally obligates Signal to provide the government a lawful interception methodology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Collection_System_Netw... If Signal is a government op or not is unclear but it's also unnecessary. All Americans by definition do not have privacy because the government can snoop. Signal pretty much doesnt need to be a gover…

>CALEA legally obligates Signal to provide the government a lawful interception methodology.

Common misunderstanding but incorrect.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-real-reason-the-feds-cant-rea...

" Soghoian explained that communications, "encrypted with a key not known to the company […] cannot be intercepted." So in a situation where the decryption keys are handled on the device, and not by whomever is delivering the messages, then law enforcement must ignore the message entirely. "

Re: Signal Is a Government Op

#60

I honestly enjoy how Yasha equates the fact that a project received money from some tentacle of the american government (which at least for me, as an european, is perfectly understandable in a situation of prolonged cold war with Russia and China) to the more spooky hypothesis that the guys behind some of the most vetted open source privacy projects do work for the man. His well known position (many years of pando) m…

While I agree with you, I feel like I should point out that is it indeed because people operate by trust that, maybe, accepting money from a "tentacle of the american government" is not a great PR move. Add to that the shady crypto stuff...
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