Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

Post by krapp » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 12:00 AM UTC

thephyber wrote: post #634

akira2501 wrote: post #596

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> Think of a private party instead The extent to which corporations should be considered private entities does not seem like a settled question to me. Your corporation has no natural right to exist, and therefore does not have the natural right to do business solely as it pleases. > and you have about the same level of responsibility for your party as twitch has for their platform. What responsibility are they exerci…

Honest question: is there an exhaustive list of natural rights? The only ones I know about are related to the Declaration of Independence and I don’t have any evidence they are comprehensive. I don’t have any evidence to believe of a conscious higher power, so my list of natural rights is likely to differ from people who do.

Post by malandrew » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 12:00 AM UTC

paxys wrote: post #139

ronsor wrote: post #60

Because this is always brought up, I will remark that I believe what the majority of commenters likely mean by free speech is the principle itself, and not the restrictions imposed on the government by the First Amendment. First and foremost, free speech is a moral principle. Secondly, while private companies can do what they want, that does not mean they should . Private companies like Apple can avoid taxes, yet man…

The fundamental problem always will be that a company running a large and popular platform on the internet has operating costs and wants to make money. The only reasonable way to do that right now is via advertising, and these advertisers only want safe, family friendly content to not tarnish their brand. I would love it if there was a similar platform with a monthly fee free of advertiser influence, but it's impossi…

Post by ngokevin » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 12:02 AM UTC

ronsor wrote: post #60

Because this is always brought up, I will remark that I believe what the majority of commenters likely mean by free speech is the principle itself, and not the restrictions imposed on the government by the First Amendment. First and foremost, free speech is a moral principle. Secondly, while private companies can do what they want, that does not mean they should . Private companies like Apple can avoid taxes, yet man…

Post by malandrew » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 12:03 AM UTC

ativzzz wrote: post #619

beaner wrote: post #610

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Imagine this response in the context of a sport like the NBA. If the ref is secretly racist and bans you from the sport because it's "funny" as their excuse, would you react this way? The nature of videogames doesn't make the professional sport of them juvenile and less worthy of rigorous standards for inclusion.

The NBA is an organization who's job it is to set rules that teams, athletes, and referees can participate in. They can choose to fire refs who behave this way, and they would because they make more money if the refs aren't racists (especially now that they're getting more into racial activism) Twitch is basically the NBA of their streaming platform, as in they set rules for how streamers, viewers, and moderators int…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 08, 2021, 12:03 AM UTC

slg wrote: post #652

refenestrator wrote: post #641

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'Society' by how thick a margin? 80%? 50.1%? Less? What if the decision-makers at twitch represent 'society' less than they think they do?

There is no set percentage, but if the decision makers at Twitch don't represent society, there is nothing stopping a Twitch competitor from sprouting up that is more in line with society's morals.