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Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

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Re: Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

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Post by refenestrator »

CharlesW wrote: post #578
refenestrator wrote: post #559

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Held accountable by whom? We didn't elect twitch. Who decides who needs to be held accountable, and for what? Shouldn't that be the justice system? Twitch mentioned proactively banning people who are arrested, without using the word 'convicted'. Which demographics is that likely to affect?

Twitch is a private company (Amazon). Simply don't use it if you don't like it's ToS, or otherwise disagree with how it handles relationships with the creators who've agreed to it.

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Re: Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

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Post by cosmodisk »

peytn wrote: post #572
Ekaros wrote: post #525

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Advantage of 28 days is that company can't stop or fire you from using them. And will be punished for not allowing it.

Geez, I’m glad I live in a society where that’s not seen as necessary. I don’t need to invoke the power of the state to take a vacation.

You'd be surprised. For 99% of people such legislation is beneficial+ it came to be like that not without good reasons. Here,in the UK, I sometimes have to interact with our customers who can't get a few days off whenever they need and usually need to plan many months ahead, just because their employees can't organise work better. Imagine how much holiday these people would have,if such legislation is removed all together.

Re: Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

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Post by viraptor »

refenestrator wrote: post #559
TameAntelope wrote: post #339

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I think it's an interesting consequence of accountability, that the people being held accountable tend to vocally dislike being held accountable, but don't want to say so for some reason. It'd honestly be pretty refreshing for a leader to come out and say, "I don't think my actions should be held against me like your actions should be held against you because I'm special/different." Insane, but refreshingly honest. F…

Held accountable by whom? We didn't elect twitch. Who decides who needs to be held accountable, and for what? Shouldn't that be the justice system? Twitch mentioned proactively banning people who are arrested, without using the word 'convicted'. Which demographics is that likely to affect?

You're thinking of it like a legal process. Think of a private party instead - you're happy to invite lots of people, but everyone heard Adam was a real asshole to someone in public, so you don't want to have him at the party anymore (even though he was never bad at your previous parties specifically).

It's a reasonable thing to do and you have about the same level of responsibility for your party as twitch has for their platform. You probably also don't care what the justice system thinks about the invitations to your party.

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Post by Daho0n »

paxys wrote: post #71
cik wrote: post #7

Is there any doubt that we've entered the era of approved, or not free speech. 'Severe misconduct' today means racist behaviour, perhaps tomorrow it means support for the NRA, or anti-environmental behaviour. The thought police have finally invaded ever part of society.

What was this magical era of free speech that people keep referring to?

Any day before today. Since the US is sliding down the freedom and freedom of the press index's every time they are updated you can always look back at More Freedom.

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Post by krapp »

gotoeleven wrote: post #579
TameAntelope wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's an interesting consequence of accountability, that the people being held accountable tend to vocally dislike being held accountable, but don't want to say so for some reason. It'd honestly be pretty refreshing for a leader to come out and say, "I don't think my actions should be held against me like your actions should be held against you because I'm special/different." Insane, but refreshingly honest. F…

Yeah I get your point. Like those witches in Salem, they really didn't like being held accountable for performing witchcraft.

The "witches" in Salem weren't actually witches. Racist and violent assholes on social media trying to drape themselves in the false flag of liberty are still racist, violent assholes.

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Post by superkuh »

paxys wrote: post #71
cik wrote: post #7

Is there any doubt that we've entered the era of approved, or not free speech. 'Severe misconduct' today means racist behaviour, perhaps tomorrow it means support for the NRA, or anti-environmental behaviour. The thought police have finally invaded ever part of society.

What was this magical era of free speech that people keep referring to?

1984-2001.

Re: Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

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Post by coryrc »

newbie789 wrote: post #250

Coming from the perspective of someone that was an admin of a medium-large forum back in the vBulletin heyday of the early 2000s, I’m somewhat amused by people getting angry at moderation decisions. The rules were pretty clear: This is my website. I pay the bills and maintain it. Here are some clear rules that if you break them, you will be punished with a ban/suspension/shadow an/redirect to goatse upon login/etc. a…

Quantity has a quality all its own.

You had, what, 0.01% of the market? It's a lot different when you have >50% (or, well, used to be).

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Post by nostromo »

psychiatrist24 wrote: post #539
Thorentis wrote: post #466

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Oh look, another "but it's a private company" defence of this behaviour. Imagine a town with a single supermarket. The closest next town is a 10 hour drive away. A certain individual commits a crime, and is punished for it by the local authorities. The supermarket then decides that they are going to ban this individual from their store because of "severe misconduct" in the community. Is this fair? Obviously, Twitch i…

Of course that supermarket should be entitled to ban the misbehaving person from their store. To turn the story around, why should a business that takes it on itself to provide for a remote community be punished for it by forcing them to accept unruly customers?

The point is that they're banning people for things not done in the store.

What if there's a single major provider of groceries in a state and they decide to ban everyone convicted of a felony for life. Would that be ok?

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Post by tw04 »

concordDance wrote: post #477
tw04 wrote: post #429

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>I personally have no idea where to find Trump's latest babble. We'll ignore for a second that just because he can't post on twitter doesn't mean that you can't find things he's saying on twitter - so that would be the first place. 30 seconds of searching and they've got 4 posts about trump in the last 48 hours. https://twitter.com/oann Fox News? OANN? Newsmax? He's on almost daily and not exactly difficult to track…

The fact it's filtered makes a big difference. I've been mislead too many times by filtered stories to have any trust in them.

What do you mean filtered? They literally put him on live television.
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