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That's a easy statement to make until you actually try to define what "some point" actually means.
We agree that kids become adults at 18 and no one has a big problem with this. I don’t believe demarcating this “some point” is far more complicated.
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> Most Europeans would be horrified by this concept But they'd be really happy to earn the same level of income.
That's a really shitty argument though. Would I be happy to earn $100k a year? Sure I would. Would I give up my 28 days of paid holidays per year, unlimited sick leave, year long maternity leave, free healthcare, free education for my children, and yes, 3 months of notice that gives me incredible amount of stability in my life for that higher pay? Absolutely not. At will employment is an abomination of the American e…
I am well aware of how much Europeans hate America. It's readily apparent on HN.
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> Your 2nd source links to Hasan saying "America deserved 9/11". Maybe it did.
It's hilarious that in a thread full of people hating on companies for deplatforming people for their opinions, you are getting massively downvoted for voicing your own opinion. Goes to show that no one really wants "free speech".
Like voting on comments, for example. That's free speech too.
That said, HN is definitely not anything even remotely resembling a free speech platform, in concept or execution. It's the recruitment platform for Y Combinator, and all decisions are made here to optimize for that.
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#494Coming from the perspective of someone that was an admin of a medium-large forum back in the vBulletin heyday of the early 2000s, I’m somewhat amused by people getting angry at moderation decisions. The rules were pretty clear: This is my website. I pay the bills and maintain it. Here are some clear rules that if you break them, you will be punished with a ban/suspension/shadow an/redirect to goatse upon login/etc. a…
To add a little extra context to what other people are giving you: large, million-dollar digital tournaments stream on Twitch because they have no other choice if they want to reach viewers. ESL signed a deal with Facebook streaming that destroyed their viewership numbers because people go to Twitch to watch, not the website for the tournament. Organizers have clearly seen this and will not move their stream to anoth…
ValkyRae, CourageJD, DrDisrespect, Anish Giri are some just off the top of my head.
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> Most Europeans would be horrified by this concept But they'd be really happy to earn the same level of income.
There are a few bubbles in the US,where people make way more than in Europe: SV, Some finance jobs on the Wall Street, maybe the oil industry. That's about it. Outside of those, it's more or less the same like in Europe, minus safety net and holiday. There are pros and cons on each side of the pond,no doubt, but in my opinion, the US is probably better suited for those with a very high income,while an average person…
And we have unlimited vacation & sick time, so I'm not sure what advantage the 28 holiday thing is.
I completely agree that the U.S. is better suited for high income earners.
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#496After reddit started banning people for upvoting the wrong things, this is a logical next step. Contrary to the popular belief, slippery slope isn't a logical fallacy. Anonymity is the only way to combat this. Make sure your online identity isn't connected to your real name. Ideally, you should have separate identities for each website. Using Tor or a VPN is also a good idea.
As a daily reddit user, I wasn't aware of this:
"Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension. We hope this will encourage healthier behavior across these communities."
> Make sure your online identity isn't connected to your real name.
Yeah, well, my userid here, on reddit, twitter, twitch, github.....is my last name, so I guess I'm stuck. (:
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> Most Europeans would be horrified by this concept But they'd be really happy to earn the same level of income.
When speaking about SV tech salaries maybe. But for majority of people, most definitely not.
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> Who decided that Freedom of Speech _only_ applies to government suppression Which freedom of speech are you referring to? Because if you're thinking of the first amendment, then the people who decided that are the ones who wrote it, and it's pretty clear in the text.
I feel like you're being obtuse. The concept of free speech was not invented by the US Constitution and has existed long before it was written. Free Speech as a societal principle and ideal has been around for hundreds of years.
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I wonder if you're confusing public debate and a vocal minority with actual bans of things? I'm not aware of any actually banned video games in the US, for instance. We should talk about those things in public - and not everyone will agree. That's how it's supposed to be. It's brand new, however, to wield the power to literally cut off your political enemies from more than half of the population with a single click o…
Some schools banned Harry Potter in America. Also this article states that Twitch that the misconduct is this: "It said examples of this “severe misconduct” include terrorist activities, child sexual exploitation, violent extremism, credible threats of mass violence, carrying out or deliberately acting as an accomplice to sexual assault and threatening Twitch or its staff." Which one of these are just political opini…
And a private school "banning" a book isn't an actual ban. You could still purchase and read the book if you desired.
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He's being down-voted because it's whataboutism. It's no different than the 50 Cent Army that suddenly cares about Native Americans when the topic of the Uyghurs comes up. Yes, the red scare was bad, yes the US's treatment of indigenous people was bad. Everyone agrees about this. There's no school district in the US that uses a history textbook that says the Sioux deserved it and McCarthy had the right idea. The fact…
Whataboutism can sometimes be a valid declaration of hypocrisy.
Edit: It appears I may have misinterpreted the initial comments sarcasm as a "if McCarthy could do it then it's fair game" rather than a criticism of modern outrage mob tactics.