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Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by haolez »

JaggerFoo wrote: post #209

I said "screw it" after my Oracle Cloud "always free" account was terminated with no recourse, a few days after having activity on the database building an application prototype, well under the resource limits. I'm now running a libvirt VM on my laptop to develop the prototype. Others have complained about Oracle Cloud's draconian practices. Doesn't sound like a company that wants to build a cloud business. Cheers

Good to know. I was actually considering giving them a chance in my company due to their competitive pricing.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by djhworld »

TheCapeGreek wrote: post #218

Isn't $55 a bit high in total cost? Aside from the 2 servers for projects, all of those aren't going to need entire servers just for 1 user. I've run Nextcloud doing all the same stuff for half that price and don't think Gitea or Monica would add much overhead. I'm aiming to do a lot of the same (and more) but definitely aiming at a much lower monthly cost.

I run gitea on a Raspberry Pi and it works ok, along with a couple of other contains + nomad/consul client, it's just me using it and I've had no problems.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by alcover »

lucideer wrote: post #124
FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #4

The diagram alone is more than enough of an argument to dissuade me from giving this a shot right now - it's simply too complicated and too much to manage for the amount of time I can dedicate to it. BUT - I'm really thankful for people who keep posting and sharing these sorts of projects; they're the ones iterating the process for the rest of us who need something a bit more turn-key. I'm excited to see this eventua…

After reading through it all, I think this is more a condemnation of the author's diagram (or at least their decision to put that particular one up-front), than of their process in general, nor the challenge. Breakdown of (my) issues with the diagram: - author's interaction with each device is explicitly included, adding unnecessary noise - "partial" and "full" real-time sync are shown as separate processes, whereas…

That is great ASCII viz ! Did you do it purely by hand ? I often need to but give up...

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by kanwisher »

clairity wrote: post #38
FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #4

The diagram alone is more than enough of an argument to dissuade me from giving this a shot right now - it's simply too complicated and too much to manage for the amount of time I can dedicate to it. BUT - I'm really thankful for people who keep posting and sharing these sorts of projects; they're the ones iterating the process for the rest of us who need something a bit more turn-key. I'm excited to see this eventua…

i've actually daydreamed about starting a computing appliance company that would make a variety of services plug and play for consumers and small businesses, from email to storage, to networking, to security, and to smart home. it's actually the direction apple is headed, but they're encumbered by the innovator's dilemma, which leaves an opportunity for an upstart. google and facebook are similarly too focused on adt…

qnap and Synology basically already cover this market

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by phendrenad2 »

JaggerFoo wrote: post #209

I said "screw it" after my Oracle Cloud "always free" account was terminated with no recourse, a few days after having activity on the database building an application prototype, well under the resource limits. I'm now running a libvirt VM on my laptop to develop the prototype. Others have complained about Oracle Cloud's draconian practices. Doesn't sound like a company that wants to build a cloud business. Cheers

I think they're making a classic BigCorp mistake: thinking they can just focus on the high-end customers. They don't realize that everything is connected in this industry, and today's hobbyists and sole proprietors are tomorrow's Fortune 500 VPs of Engineering (and vice versa).

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by ryukafalz »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #136
danbruder wrote: post #135

Theres an opportunity here for someone to build a "platform" that makes this all plug-n-play; like what the apple/google app stores have done but where the end user has control. Something along the lines of someone buys some hardware with this platform on it and gets a gui that lets me install "apps" on top of it. Personally, I've got a home setup that is on its way to what the op has; but I think there's demand from…

Like Sandstorm?

Yup, the sibling comments mention a few alternatives (FreedomBox and Yunohost) but Sandstorm is really the only one I've ever used that makes me confident in the state of the system long-term. Let me elaborate on that.

FreedomBox and Yunohost use more traditional software installation mechanisms; they'll install packages, run scripts, etc. They just add (sometimes very nice) UI around it. While that's great for some things, after a while things can get a bit messy. For example: what about when a package installation fails for some reason? Or one of the configuration scripts fails? Well, you're stuck logging in and troubleshooting, which isn't super fun (and might be intractable for less technical users).

Sandstorm, though? Everything is sandboxed and isolated from the rest of the system. Everything. Backing up or restoring an instance of an app is a few clicks in a web interface. Sandstorm handles auth so the app doesn't have to... etc etc.

This has its downsides, namely that apps that aren't written with this sort of usage in mind might not fit in as well. But for those that are, it's by far the best experience I've had. I have Yunohost and FreedomBox servers in varying states of disrepair, but my Sandstorm server keeps chugging along. Big fan.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by djhworld »

I've been self hosting a few bits and bobs over the years (mainly gitea, FreshRSS reader, pihole, excalidraw and other custom services I've written)

Recently I've put together a little Nomad + Consul raspberry pi cluster (3 nodes) to schedule them all in docker containers, with each thing in its own job file. Traefik for routing and HTTPs, which nicely integrates with consul.

The cluster setup is all in ansible, which took a while to setup and fine tune but I think (hope?) it's in a good enough place to be able to rebuild the cluster in the event I mess anything up.

Clustering might be overkill but I like being able to deploy things through Nomad and it just working without much fuss.

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by miles »

lucideer wrote: post #124
FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #4

The diagram alone is more than enough of an argument to dissuade me from giving this a shot right now - it's simply too complicated and too much to manage for the amount of time I can dedicate to it. BUT - I'm really thankful for people who keep posting and sharing these sorts of projects; they're the ones iterating the process for the rest of us who need something a bit more turn-key. I'm excited to see this eventua…

After reading through it all, I think this is more a condemnation of the author's diagram (or at least their decision to put that particular one up-front), than of their process in general, nor the challenge. Breakdown of (my) issues with the diagram: - author's interaction with each device is explicitly included, adding unnecessary noise - "partial" and "full" real-time sync are shown as separate processes, whereas…

Sweet diagram! Did you use Monodraw to draw it? Or something else?

Re: Screw it, I’ll host it myself

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Post by jonseager »

I’ve been running Nextcloud on a DigitalOcean droplet, backed by S3 compatible storage from Wasabi for about 3 years now - it’s been pretty seamless. I think the old Nextcloud client syncing issues are a thing of the past (unless you work will really big files). Costs me $15/mo total.

My Nextcloud instance gets one-way synced using rclone to a NAS once daily, and one-way synced weekly as a tar archive to Onedrive (1TB storage from Office365 is otherwise unused, so...). The rclone setup is all with docker-compose + sops for rclone config, so I can just git clone and Docker-compose anywhere to get another machine backing up.

A nice addition is that the droplet serves as a WireGuard server that all my devices are pretty much always connected to (with split routing).

I host a couple of other services on the droplet including The Lounge for IRC, my personal website and a pastebin type app.

If anyone is interested, the whole setup is on GitHub at https://github.com/jnsgruk/infra

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