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Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by alwillis »

mellosouls wrote: post #205
alwillis wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s over 1 billion iOS devices out there; not having an Android version isn't a limiting factor. I’m aware of lots of Android users who have bought used iPhones or are using their kid’s iPod Touch to access Clubhouse.

It's certainly a limiting factor to its supposed principles which claim it to be "inclusive" and "diverse". https://www.notion.so/Community-Guidelines-461a6860abda41649...

I doubt it.

I've spoken with people from all over the world, including those in developing countries, in Clubhouse rooms.

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Post by tiborsaas »

alwillis wrote: post #211
mellosouls wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's certainly a limiting factor to its supposed principles which claim it to be "inclusive" and "diverse". https://www.notion.so/Community-Guidelines-461a6860abda41649...

I doubt it. I've spoken with people from all over the world, including those in developing countries, in Clubhouse rooms.

You've spoken to iPhone owners only, of course they don't see a problem :)

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Post by KoftaBob »

manigandham wrote: post #94

What a strange app. Are people really that amazed by conference calls? It seems the entire play right now is exclusivity, not product.

I see this misconception a lot when new startups start to gain momentum, the idea that it only makes sense for completely novel concepts to take off.

Clubhouse fills a specific niche that doesn't have a strong incumbent yet. It's essentially live podcasts/fireside chats where listeners can chime in.

As of right now, there are big players in podcast platforms and conference calls for work, but none whose platform is specifically built around the live podcast with interactivity from listeners option.

Successful companies aren't built around making something totally novel that's never been done before, this isn't the Nobel Prize. They're built out of creating the best and stickiest product/service for a use case that doesn't have one yet.

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Post by imtringued »

PeterisP wrote: post #84
fastball wrote: post #15

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Are they? Presumably if there is a dispute they will just remove the money from the creator.

If they pay out money to creators in a reasonable time, then a fraudulent "creator" (accounts created with fake/stolen identities and tipped with stolen cards) will withdraw anything ASAP and there won't be anything to remove/recover; and if they want to protect from that, then they have to do invasive verification and/or freeze any income for a quite long time.

They can just do KYC for people who withdraw money from the platform.

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Post by alwillis »

tiborsaas wrote: post #212
alwillis wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt it. I've spoken with people from all over the world, including those in developing countries, in Clubhouse rooms.

You've spoken to iPhone owners only, of course they don't see a problem :)

Let me put it this way: there’s no lack of diversity or inclusiveness now on Clubhouse.

The days of only wealthy westerners having iPhones has long past.

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Post by exactlysolved »

xiii1408 wrote: post #61
rvz wrote: post #22

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator ... Clubhouse will take nothing. Well imagine if they had an Android app in the first place or earlier right before all the big players started copying them, then it would have been attractive to the users. Right now, what is the point if the invite system is still there. Another platform can just announce the same thing and they are back to square zero. > We are excited t…

> Yet, with no Android app and an increasing amount of competitors copying the hell out of Clubhouse, I can only see this going in the way of Meerkat, Yik Yak and Periscope. (By being shut down) We'll of course have to wait and see, but I don't imagine that Clubhouse will be entirely displaced. What's unique about Clubhouse is not the concept of a Clubhouse room itself, which is essentially a Discord channel with bas…

> For the moment at least, Clubhouse is chock full of cool and influential people.

There's a fundamental tension here. Cool and influential people want to hang out with other cool and influential people. Non-cool and non-influential people also want to hang out with cool and influential people. When you use your exclusivity to build popularity there's only one way it can play out. You can do it as slowly as possible or all in one big bang but it will happen.

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Post by grishka »

artur_makly wrote: post #30
rvz wrote: post #22

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator ... Clubhouse will take nothing. Well imagine if they had an Android app in the first place or earlier right before all the big players started copying them, then it would have been attractive to the users. Right now, what is the point if the invite system is still there. Another platform can just announce the same thing and they are back to square zero. > We are excited t…

Android app is coming out in a few days ( as per founder's townhall chat yesterday )

Oh wow. It only took them two months or what? I made my unofficial app based on reverse engineered API in 1.5 days. It was quite popular at the time.

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Post by danpalmer »

astrange wrote: post #200
danpalmer wrote: post #196

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I think the “live podcasting” is a post-hoc rationalisation. In my experience it’s much closer to a conference call than a podcast. Specifically, lack of script, lack of direction, low audio quality, “am I muted?”, and people talking over each other. Twitter in the early days was known for celebrities turning up and replying to or even following non-celebrities. Then Quora was known for this. Both outgrew this quickl…

Clubhouse's advantage over Twitter is that it's not recorded and you can't get reply guys. I know minor bluechecks on Twitter who are pretty annoyed by the platform because someone always yells at them or quotes them a month later no matter what they say. It's nice to have things disappear. …It's really not fun to listen to, though, it is just a WebEx meeting with even worse audio.

Yeah that's a good point about reply-guys.

As much as I think that sort of moderation is great to have, I wonder how much it will limit their growth (which might be ok).

It's also a balance because if there is no interaction, if it's really not a chat room and is just a live show then I'd much rather just listen to a podcast on my time, at my convenience, with better audio quality and "is my mic on" edited out.

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Post by rchaud »

coliveira wrote: post #160
wpietri wrote: post #146

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As a former Quora Top Writer (2013 and 2014), that makes a lot of sense to me. And faster, I'd bet. What made Quora special in the early days was the high-quality community. Smart questions, smart writers answering them, even a reasonable proportion of smart comments. That seems to be the same sort of magic that Clubhouse has managed. It's not the technology, it's the community. But as Quora tried to scale, that got…

But "lead generation" is the fate of all social networks. It may be cool at the beginning, but very soon marketers will figure out how to use it for commercial purposes, and this will become 90% of the use. It is the same story on Facebook, Pinterest, and so many others.

Yup. User-generated content is prized by social networks because it's free to acquire. But over time, you get what you pay for.
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