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Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Absolutely. I generally believe that the way behavioral patterns emerge is not instant, and therefore the way you get out cannot be instant. In other words, the only way out of the darkness is walking back through the exact path you came from. It takes a long time of not focusing on daily practice and discipline to get to the point where you don’t realize you need to put in at least a few hours of studying per day. I…

> I generally believe that the way behavioral patterns emerge is not instant, not everything is a habit, some behaviours are impulsive or context driven. lets say that habits take time to form though. > and therefore the way you get out cannot be instant. this is only true if breaking a habit, is also a habit. i don’t not certain this is always true. lets ask, what is a habit? since this is an async convo i will answ…

Hey I never ran a day in my life. I found out if I take steroids I can jump start my running in 3 months. Turns out I’m a great runner, so I must have been a great runner all this time and just need a therapeutic dose of steroids to show that I had chemical deficiency that easily solved it. Now life is much more fair for me.

Look, once your life depends on a decision you know was a trade off (you feel entitled to whatever it is you don’t have from not putting in the actual work), it’s going to take intense mental gymnastics to feel sound as a person.

But I can help you, repeat after me. This life wasn’t going great, so I made a decision. It’s better now, and I can live with it and fuck anyone else.

All I’m saying is, don’t you dare sell that confirmation bias back into the zeitgeist. We can be friends, I’ve been there (probably still there). Certainly don’t try to sell it to the person that put in 3 years running, and the only difference between you and that person was an unprovable chemical deficiency. The guy waking up everyday to run never felt like it was never going to amount to anything once, right? They just had it in them, just like you. It’s all in you, like magic, just needs to brought out.

Just own your decision in it’s entirety. No one is a saint here.

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is not one of the greatest productivity strategies to break large complex things (passing an exam) into smaller, manageable tasks (a few hours of study a day). i do not buy this line.

This retort is a dead give away of entitlement. Everyone breaks down studying like this, Jesus. How special do some of you think you are? This is all supposed come freely to you? Read a chapter a day, and if some of you truly exhibit the impulsivity of dogs (the wind can distract you apparently), then read a page a day, and if you can’t do that, read a word a day. This is how people do it. Bunch of hidden brainiacs think they can just take a book and place it near their forehead and instantly absorb it and then cry foul when it doesn’t happen.

And the last thing I want to add is, you won’t have fun doing any of the above stuff. It’s never going to be fun and it never is fun for anyone. The only joy you’ll get is at the very end when you succeed.

Yep, classical delayed gratification.

Now we get closer to the truth, yeah?

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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This is a great start. I’ll add some more: - Other common mental health issues like anxiety and depression. I experience both chronically, treating my ADHD is currently the only management I need, nothing else has ever worked. - Sensory sensitivity including overload, confusion, neurological disorders. Hyperacusis and auditory processing disorder are my main issues. I just learned this past weekend that tinnitus may…

How does one treat chronic anxiety? Xanax has a miracle reputation but like all other benzos it is said to only works temporarily as a hotfix, then you build up tolerance and you go back to your baseline Pre Xanax (or worse). What is very frustrating about such explanations is that I can't tell if it exactly put you back to your pre Xanax era or if after tolerance builds up (for a same dose) you are better than befor…

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Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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How does one treat chronic anxiety? Xanax has a miracle reputation but like all other benzos it is said to only works temporarily as a hotfix, then you build up tolerance and you go back to your baseline Pre Xanax (or worse). What is very frustrating about such explanations is that I can't tell if it exactly put you back to your pre Xanax era or if after tolerance builds up (for a same dose) you are better than befor…

How do none of the intelligent people replying to you/on this board have no love for CBD flower ground up and heated in a little vaporizor a few times throughout the day for chronic anxiety?

My friend uses CBD oil under the tongue, and it does seem to help.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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The very worst problem with ADHD drugs is that they are overwhelmingly used to "treat" normal behavior with children - especially boys.

That’s by intention.

Boys are intentionally misdiagnosed with ADHD to give medication to alter their behaviour?

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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This is a bad idea. Good idea for parents who don’t want to spend time with their kids. When my son was 2, maybe 3, one of the best neurologist in my state diagnosed my son with mild ADHD. He was not talking either. If med was available, I sure would sign up and give it to him. I was simply “too busy” with work. Instead of playing with him after work, I got busy with other “projects”. I only got awakening up after my…

If your physician diagnoses a 3 year old child with ADHD, find a new physician.

I approached the parent comment with immediate scepticism. I couldn't believe that a therapist would give such a diagnosis for a child of 2-3 years of age. I looked a bit into it:

> According to the 2010-2011 National Survey of Children’s Health, approximately 194,000 preschoolers (2-5 years of age) had a current ADHD diagnosis. Some children outgrow the symptoms, but others may not. Research shows that 3-year-olds who show symptoms of ADHD are much more likely to meet the diagnostic criteria for ADHD by age 13. [1]

And, I'm baffled. Surely, I thought, a "behavioural diagnosis" such as ADHD should not be used at an early stage of development? But, apparently it is. Which then begs the question as to why. Is this good for the child or the parents? Was this a blind study, or does the early "diagnosis" affect the judgment of a child meeting the criteria at age 13?

[1]: https://chadd.org/for-parents/preschoolers-and-adhd/

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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This is a great start. I’ll add some more: - Other common mental health issues like anxiety and depression. I experience both chronically, treating my ADHD is currently the only management I need, nothing else has ever worked. - Sensory sensitivity including overload, confusion, neurological disorders. Hyperacusis and auditory processing disorder are my main issues. I just learned this past weekend that tinnitus may…

How does one treat chronic anxiety? Xanax has a miracle reputation but like all other benzos it is said to only works temporarily as a hotfix, then you build up tolerance and you go back to your baseline Pre Xanax (or worse). What is very frustrating about such explanations is that I can't tell if it exactly put you back to your pre Xanax era or if after tolerance builds up (for a same dose) you are better than befor…

Breathing exercises work. I do them every single day, and I no longer have to take anxiety medication. I am almost always aware of my /breathing patterns/.

You may want to search for "breathing" on Hacker News.

Here are actual extremely informative comments to go through, sorted by most recent (this is important because of COVID-19 as people have been thinking about breathing more): https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Here are recent links ("stories") posted to Hacker News, sorted by most recent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Here is an overview about breathing:

What I ultimately do is Respiratory Muscle Training (RMT) using 2 separate devices. There are two main forms of RMT: Respiratory Muscle Strength Training (RMST) and Respiratory Muscle Endurance Training (RMET). I do both, and both of which requires separate devices.

For RMST there are two types of training: Inspiratory Muscle Training (IMT) and Expiratory Muscle Training (EMT). Most devices do only IMT. The device I use does both IMT and EMT.

Anyways, I am out-of-shape and there are studies to prove that Respiratory Muscle Endurance Training (RMET) reduces fatigue when exercising. I have benefited tremendously from RMET, both from an exercise and anxiety standpoint. Anyways, RMET is a big deal in countries like Switzerland and Germany.

Books to consult:

There are two books to consult on Respiratory Muscle Training, which you can find on https://libgen.rs

* "Breathe Strong, Perform Better" by Alison McConnell

* "Respiratory Muscle Training: Theory and Practice" by Alison McConnell

This book, Breathology, however, will help you regulate your breathing, and become more aware of it, to reduce anxiety: https://www.breatheology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/INTR...

Now to the important stuff regarding breathing and anxiety:

Anyways, sorry for the ramble, but the most useful device I use is the IDIAG P100 (https://www.idiag.ch/en/idiag-p100-en/). There is a site with PDFs on how to train with it here: (https://www.idiag.ch/en/idiag-p100-training/).

It is profoundly useful and anxiety reducing because it has a technology called isocapnic hyperpnea. This means that it always regulates the air you breathe, so that you maintain the same level of carbon dioxide that you exhaled, the whole time you use it.

When I feel tense, I put the IDIAG P100 device into "Free Training" mode, and I just hyperventilate into the mouthpiece to relieve tension. I stop using it once my breathing frequency is about 13-16 breaths per minute and my breathing pattern seems normal. It really helps me relieve tension. I am actually going to use it now.

I just used it, and I actually just accidentally fell asleep using it, while continuing its use. The isocapnic hypernia made all the difference. When I was awake, my tightness in my chest went away. When I was asleep, I noticed that my muscles were not tight at all, and I was sleeping restfully (I have 2 rare immune-mediated neuromuscular diseases affecting my peripheral nervous system,, so such a circumstance is rare and extremely unusual). I also had detailed and amazing dreams. Anyways, I need to make something like this for sleep, utilizing isocapnic hyperpnea.

The IDIAG P100 is both a RMET and RMST device, along with being Respiratory Muscle Sprint-Interval Training (RMSIT) device (which is a new technique superior to both traditional RMET and RMST): https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Fulltext/2019/02000/Effec...)

Anyways, I use the RMET daily, and I train for 30 minutes each day. I breathe 50-80% of my maximum lung capacity, for each breath, at 40-70 breaths per minute. It is really difficult but it pays off when it comes to reducing fatigue and anxiety. About 15 minutes in, even though it is hard, it becomes extremely relaxing, and continues to be throughout the rest of the training. I do this when I wake up in the morning and it drastically reduces my anxiety.

Another tool I use (which I recommend you start off with) is the Airofit, which is a Respiratory Muscle Strength (RMST) training device. Because of it, I am always aware of my breathing and my breathing patterns. It is an essential tool for reducing my anxiety. It is a threshold flow resistive respiratory muscle training device (consult this: https://www.hilarispublisher.com/open-access/a-review-on-res...). This means that you have to blow at a certain level (low threshold, in this case) to activate the device, then its valves restrict the flow of your breathing. You can change the settings (valves) by turning the device, on both the expiratory and insipratory sides.

Anyways, it is a digital device, and it has several training programs. It also has a spirometer within the device, so you can measure your progress. Also, the app is awesome, and so is their customer support! It teaches you things like square and circle breathing in the app which will help you relax. Anyways, you can use the device with YouTube videos (that people recommend in the comments that I linked to on Hacker News). You just open the app, and go to the program "Relaxation: Freedom".

The "Relaxation: Freedom" setting shows a trace (kind of like an EKG) of your breathing. When you are not breathing the trace is in the center of the graph. If you exhale, the trace goes below the center of the graph. If you inhale, the trace goes above the center of the graph.

The graph essentially shows how consistent your flow is when breathing. When I watch YouTube breathing programs, I have the Relaxation: Freedom program open on the Airofit app, either on my iPad (preferred in this setting) or my iPhone. When I watch the YouTube videos, I keep the app in front of me, to make sure that I am breathing consistently and the flow of my breathing is at a consistent rate. Therefore I optimize my breathing using the Airofit app when watching YouTube videos.

Another thing that helps me with anxiety is Virtual Reality. You may cringe at this. However, I either keep an Oculus Quest (modded with FrankenQuest mod--using HTC Deluxe Audio Strap) in my backpack at all times, or my laptop with a PC VR headset with me. I have relaxation apps loaded on my VR headsets, and that is what I primarily use them for. theBlu is like scuba diving in a stationary place and it is very realistic. You can keep it running for hours, too, without any interaction. Anyways, the Steam platform is better for this, but the Oculus Quest works perfectly fine. I find VR to feel like nitrous oxide, without the actual strange sensation of nitrous oxide. It feel exhilarating, relaxing, and disorienting all at the same time. Therefore, it is great for anxiety.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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I've heard this so often, even from family. "It sounds like things everybody has to deal with". It's infinitely more difficult with ADHD. I use phone apps to remind myself of everyday things and track my shopping lists. This may sound normal but it's a coping strategy and when it's gone I am unable to function as a normal human being. I cannot go shopping without a shopping list because I will grab things I think I n…

Caffeine can make it worse

Sometimes makes it a lot better, sometimes worse.

Worked better when younger. Now it’s role as a vascular-constrictor is dangerous for me.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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The very worst problem with ADHD drugs is that they are overwhelmingly used to "treat" normal behavior with children - especially boys.

School, the institution is not for everyone, and is definitely not normal, even though society has normalized it. My son went through periods of anxiety and stress through school and there was a push by a teacher and an administrator to have him diagnosed with something, anything really. If my daughter hadn't been at the same school and witnessed a couple of incidents of him being publicly shamed and bullied by the teacher, I wouldn't have known what to do.

He's now in a private school which takes place predominantly outdoors, nature based, and the transformation in him is phenomenal. The anxiety is gone and he's such an open mind and engages in conversations in ways he'd shy away from before.

I wonder and worry about kids who've experienced the same but suffer it for their entire grade-school experience with no reprieve.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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maybe zero discipline and/or work ethic are disorders? do you believe in the concept if mental health at all?

Absolutely. I generally believe that the way behavioral patterns emerge is not instant, and therefore the way you get out cannot be instant. In other words, the only way out of the darkness is walking back through the exact path you came from. It takes a long time of not focusing on daily practice and discipline to get to the point where you don’t realize you need to put in at least a few hours of studying per day. I…

It's a cool hypothesis of yours, that it's just a discipline issue. Unfortunately your typical lifestyle of a slacker you described was not my life, and I still struggled intensely, daily, with procrastination and getting things done and paying attention. I'm intelligent, had a good upbringing with strong study disciplines instilled in me, as well as a joy for learning and working. I want to be a fantastic worker and be highly productive, but despite all the advantages in life I have had, without meds my adult life is just barely staying afloat.

With ADHD meds, I'm suddenly performing like all my potential and desires suggests I should be.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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I took amphetamines daily (week-daily at least) on and off for a decade before my diagnosis and the realisation that I was medicating with it was a large part of seeking my diagnosis. For me speed was calming and focussing and a tool to help me manage my life, not a fun thing for going out.

What a lot of people probably don't realize is that stimulants like Coffee (or even Speed) depend on the brain's structure. ADHD Brains work differently and they respond different to stimulants. And people don't like it when ADHD people self-medicate with coffee because they think it would make it worse (Heck, I've gotten detention for consuming coffee because I had ADHD. "Concerned teachers" they called it).

It’s a nightmare when dealing with doctors.

Another example, Benadryl makes me insanely hyper. One of my kids is same way.

Telling a doctor results in being labeled a liar.

At least a dozen medications that I respond in weird ways to.

A 4 hour adderall (20mg), lasts me about 30 hours.

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