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Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by atat7024 »

The_rationalist wrote: post #62
eyelidlessness wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great start. I’ll add some more: - Other common mental health issues like anxiety and depression. I experience both chronically, treating my ADHD is currently the only management I need, nothing else has ever worked. - Sensory sensitivity including overload, confusion, neurological disorders. Hyperacusis and auditory processing disorder are my main issues. I just learned this past weekend that tinnitus may…

How does one treat chronic anxiety? Xanax has a miracle reputation but like all other benzos it is said to only works temporarily as a hotfix, then you build up tolerance and you go back to your baseline Pre Xanax (or worse). What is very frustrating about such explanations is that I can't tell if it exactly put you back to your pre Xanax era or if after tolerance builds up (for a same dose) you are better than befor…

How do none of the intelligent people replying to you/on this board have no love for CBD flower ground up and heated in a little vaporizor a few times throughout the day for chronic anxiety?

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by barsonme »

myrandomcomment wrote: post #119

I have always struggled to explain what having ADHD is like to others. I finally settled on “imagine going through life with this constant sound in the back of your head like a fuzzy AM radio station that you can never tune in and also can never just ignore killing any ability to focus. Taking the drug to treat it (time released methylphenidate in my case) allows me to tune that station in like it was a perfect CD wi…

“The TV is on but you don’t get to choose the channel.”

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by iovrthoughtthis »

The_rationalist wrote: post #62
eyelidlessness wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great start. I’ll add some more: - Other common mental health issues like anxiety and depression. I experience both chronically, treating my ADHD is currently the only management I need, nothing else has ever worked. - Sensory sensitivity including overload, confusion, neurological disorders. Hyperacusis and auditory processing disorder are my main issues. I just learned this past weekend that tinnitus may…

How does one treat chronic anxiety? Xanax has a miracle reputation but like all other benzos it is said to only works temporarily as a hotfix, then you build up tolerance and you go back to your baseline Pre Xanax (or worse). What is very frustrating about such explanations is that I can't tell if it exactly put you back to your pre Xanax era or if after tolerance builds up (for a same dose) you are better than befor…

ssris are often used to treat anxiety alone in the uk.

i personally found that aswagandha helped a lot in reducing my anxiety enough to start to handle it. it also totally destroyed my motovation to do anything (i took too much too often for too long). now i take 500mg ever 2-3 days but i started on 500mg a day.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by barsonme »

wdn wrote: post #25

This is a bad idea. Good idea for parents who don’t want to spend time with their kids. When my son was 2, maybe 3, one of the best neurologist in my state diagnosed my son with mild ADHD. He was not talking either. If med was available, I sure would sign up and give it to him. I was simply “too busy” with work. Instead of playing with him after work, I got busy with other “projects”. I only got awakening up after my…

If your physician diagnoses a 3 year old child with ADHD, find a new physician.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by iovrthoughtthis »

dmitrygr wrote: post #21
nerdbaggy wrote: post #17

Seems that lots of people only think ADHD people have a hard time paying attention. If it was that simple I would be so happy. Here are just a few of the things I struggle with. - Will power. People with ADHD struggle sooooo much with will power. It’s a constant struggle with everything in life and really wears you down. - Constantly putting on a fake front pretending you don’t have ADHD. - Rejection sensitivity - Fe…

All of those fit me. In Russia as a kid I was diagnosed with "sit down, shut up, and read books like everyone else in your class, or else ..."

sorry you had to go through that.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by bendmorris »

jasonkester wrote: post #137
bendmorris wrote: post #132

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I suspect that by: >People thinking it’s not a real condition. the person you're responding to meant statements like yours: >Frankly, the symptoms you describe apply to pretty much everybody, and are just the things one deals with in life. According to the NIH, prevalence of severe ADHD in children is around 4% [1]. This differs by degree from "the things one deals with in life" for most people - it's an extreme vers…

You’re right. I didn’t like that bit of my comment, and was in the process of lopping it off when you were composing your reply. Apologies for not getting the edit done in time. Mostly I’m alarmed that so many parents are happy to put their small children on a lifetime supply of medicine for something that’s not immediately life threatening.

As a parent who has made this decision myself, I certainly wasn't "happy to" do it. But it's very clear to me that without medication, my child lacked control over his thoughts and actions, and it was affecting his life - school, friendships, etc. - to a degree that was very frustrating for him. He's happier and more successful now. And, it's not a "lifetime supply" for sure - many kids do grow out of it and stop requiring medication by the time they reach adulthood. Some don't, and they can decide where to go from there.

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by RHSman2 »

jasonkester wrote: post #137
bendmorris wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that by: >People thinking it’s not a real condition. the person you're responding to meant statements like yours: >Frankly, the symptoms you describe apply to pretty much everybody, and are just the things one deals with in life. According to the NIH, prevalence of severe ADHD in children is around 4% [1]. This differs by degree from "the things one deals with in life" for most people - it's an extreme vers…

You’re right. I didn’t like that bit of my comment, and was in the process of lopping it off when you were composing your reply. Apologies for not getting the edit done in time. Mostly I’m alarmed that so many parents are happy to put their small children on a lifetime supply of medicine for something that’s not immediately life threatening.

I have two children with ADHD and myself (non medicated). Having a child with ADHD is extremely hard. All we try and do is workout the way for them to navigate life with out destroying everything around them.

We haven’t had to medicate them yet but the decision would be a very considered one and weighed up to if it would change their lives for the better.

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Post by watwut »

jasonkester wrote: post #128
nerdbaggy wrote: post #17

Seems that lots of people only think ADHD people have a hard time paying attention. If it was that simple I would be so happy. Here are just a few of the things I struggle with. - Will power. People with ADHD struggle sooooo much with will power. It’s a constant struggle with everything in life and really wears you down. - Constantly putting on a fake front pretending you don’t have ADHD. - Rejection sensitivity - Fe…

How do you reconcile this with the observation that seemingly every single child in the United States is diagnosed with this condition and prescribed drugs to treat it? Watching from Europe, where roughly nobody is diagnosed with it nor prescribed drugs to treat it, I’m always baffled, fascinated and horrified watching Americans talk about it.

Kids do get diagnozed with ADHD in Europe, it is real thing. Following are my speculations.

I think that threads from few days ago where basically all Americans found it normal and expected to for 5 years old to learn reading might have to do with that. If you expect too much of kids too soon, a lot of them wont be able to cope. You can then either adjust expectation or claim those kids sick.

The other difference I noted is much less physical freedom Americans give to their kids and much bigger obsession with physical safety. Their kids do a lot of organized sport, but seemingly less of "run around as you please right now on whim". Which might have been related.

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Post by iovrthoughtthis »

runawaybottle wrote: post #27
thonos wrote: post #22

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> None of you ever want to hear it, but everyone goes through this. It’s the human condition. Comments like this make me angry because it shows how much of a disconnect there is with taking ADHD serious. It's like saying to a depressed person to "just don't be sad and focus on something fun". Sure everyone struggles, but imagine those struggles cranked up by 20x. You overthink EVERYTHING, you're driven by random impu…

It’s all good. Been there done that, it helps pay the bills and get good grades. If you don’t overdo it who is to tell you anything is wrong. There’s absolutely no difference between the stuff you described and the stuff an average person with zero discipline or work ethic deals with. It‘a the slackers in high school who never studied and passed everything that can’t handle they spent 18 years not developing serious…

maybe zero discipline and/or work ethic are disorders?

do you believe in the concept if mental health at all?

Re: FDA approves new ADHD drug for children

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Post by astrange »

nerdbaggy wrote: post #17

Seems that lots of people only think ADHD people have a hard time paying attention. If it was that simple I would be so happy. Here are just a few of the things I struggle with. - Will power. People with ADHD struggle sooooo much with will power. It’s a constant struggle with everything in life and really wears you down. - Constantly putting on a fake front pretending you don’t have ADHD. - Rejection sensitivity - Fe…

> - Rejection sensitivity

"Rejection sensitivity" is not medically accepted; this isn't to say it's being suppressed by big psych, it's just something an ADHD blog made up and everyone thought they were authoritative about it for some reason.

The symptoms of "rejection sensitivity" are just anxiety, which is often comorbid with ADHD.

> - Medication only helps with the attention issue for maybe 8 hours. It doesn’t help with the other 95% of the issues

The non-stimulant medications (Tenex, Strattera) have their issues but they are 24 hour effective. Maybe this one too.

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