Earlier quoted context omitted.
A blind pilot isn’t capable of doing the job of piloting.
Is an extremely obnoxious man capable of doing the job of a publicly visible board member?
Didn't he found the organization to begin with?
Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
51–60 of 227 posts
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#52Reminder that a blanket statement that RMS is autistic is contradicted by RMS himself: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2551458/asperger-s-oxy...
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#53The FSF looks even more like a sect if you do mental gymnastics like that for your former guru. RMS publicly defended child rape. Someone like that should not get to define what freedom means. RMS has all the right not to get attacked about his awkward behavior, but he has to feel the consequences on his ideological thought.
To be clear, I am not defending what RMS said, but "defending child rape" is oversimplifying and over exaggerating his position. His remark related to the age of consent being different in different places (states/countries).
Please read his email again and think about if what you said is really true. It’s quoted in this article: https://thenextweb.com/dd/2019/09/13/free-software-icon-rich...
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#54I don't think this argument makes sense. In fact if we follow it to its conclusion, it's an additional reason for RMS to be removed from his job. 1. RMS is not being punished by the FSF. He does not have any right to a particular job, even as the founder of an organization. Many people, including FSF board members, believed he was not competent to serve the organization in a leadership role. One could argue about whe…
> RMS has publicly described himself as autistic
Oh, has he? Last I heard he actually rejected that. When did he openly call himself autistic?
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#55I don't think this argument makes sense. In fact if we follow it to its conclusion, it's an additional reason for RMS to be removed from his job. 1. RMS is not being punished by the FSF. He does not have any right to a particular job, even as the founder of an organization. Many people, including FSF board members, believed he was not competent to serve the organization in a leadership role. One could argue about whe…
> 2. RMS is not obviously asking for any understanding nor promising to be better.
You can't apologize once there is a mixture of 10% truth and 90% defamation.
The libelous press will then print that the target has apologized for 100%, and therefore has validated the libel.
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#56How is a "You can't lead an organisation and be a role model if your views hurt a significant amount of people in the organisation" a non-judicial punishment? If you can't read or write you would also probably not lead a large organization, and it's not punishment. Can you rejoin if you have learned reading and writing? Yes. Stallman is not a janitor but in top management (I have the highest respect for janitors but…
> How is a "You can't lead an organisation and be a role model if your views hurt a significant amount of people in the organisation" a non-judicial punishment? If you can't read or write you would also probably not lead a large organization, and it's not punishment.
Is it a decision? Yes.
Is it a decision made in the name of public interest? Yes.
Is it a decision that relates to some kind of transgression? Yes.
Is it a decision that seriously affects a person's liberty and pursuit of happiness? Yes.
Is it a decision made out of a fair trial? No.
Just because the labels "justice, diversity, inclusivity, equity" are displayed on a mob that harasses and assaults people doesn't make it less of a mob.
Also Stallman didn't "hurt" anyone. This is ridiculous.
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#57How exactly does one allow another to prove that they have reformed their role as a potential legal liability without exposing people to that person?
The government enjoys sovereign immunity when it frees people who have served their jail time and it enjoys a monopoly of power. The FSF does not enjoy the same level of legal protection when RMS harasses women, nor does it have a monopoly on anything.
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#58What's interesting is that in this particular case, we did kind of get a sort of "jury" vote in the two open letters to the FSF: One asking that he be removed (3000 signatures), and one asking that he be kept on (5000 signatures).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#Return_to_FSF
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#59Can we please stop armchair-diagnosing RMS and excusing his behaviour based on this armchair diagnosis? Or even worse, calling it a disability like Bruce Perens does, in some kind of effort to gain sympathy, or perhaps appeal to ADA? First of all, nobody has ever actually diagnosed RMS and he himself has rejected that folk diagnosis when offered to him. If dude wanted psychiatric help, he could get it. Second of all,…
You are probably referring to ADA not DACA, unless you think RMS is about to be deported.
Re: Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals
#60I don't think this argument makes sense. In fact if we follow it to its conclusion, it's an additional reason for RMS to be removed from his job. 1. RMS is not being punished by the FSF. He does not have any right to a particular job, even as the founder of an organization. Many people, including FSF board members, believed he was not competent to serve the organization in a leadership role. One could argue about whe…
[deleted]