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Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by sss111 »

BelenusMordred wrote: post #106
xiii1408 wrote: post #61

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> Yet, with no Android app and an increasing amount of competitors copying the hell out of Clubhouse, I can only see this going in the way of Meerkat, Yik Yak and Periscope. (By being shut down) We'll of course have to wait and see, but I don't imagine that Clubhouse will be entirely displaced. What's unique about Clubhouse is not the concept of a Clubhouse room itself, which is essentially a Discord channel with bas…

> Clubhouse is one of the very few online places I've seen people willing to speak frankly on sensitive political issues in Chinese This is more an effect of you being exposed to Chinese people rather than some new phenomenon. Mainland politics is everywhere online, it's in the digital spaces that Westerners rarely visit though.

What are some of these platforms? Would love to know

Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by pjc50 »

Scoundreller wrote: post #142
rvz wrote: post #22

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator ... Clubhouse will take nothing. Well imagine if they had an Android app in the first place or earlier right before all the big players started copying them, then it would have been attractive to the users. Right now, what is the point if the invite system is still there. Another platform can just announce the same thing and they are back to square zero. > We are excited t…

> 100% of the payment will go to the creator Ohhh, this is going to be a disaster for Manufactured Spend.

What?

Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by vishnugupta »

kyrra wrote: post #90
PeterisP wrote: post #74

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It's still a risky business model, since in certain fraud cases it will be left holding the bag for chargebacks if it has released the money to a fraudster but they don't have a revenue stream proportional to the payment amount to cover whatever percentage of the transactions are fraudulent.

Not sure why you're down voted. People that steal credit cards find ways to fund money from those cards to themselves. Fake apps are one way this can happen. When a company sets up a model where anyone could easily become a receiver of money and anyone could easily pay, they get into the AML world.

> When a company sets up a model where anyone could easily become a receiver of money and anyone could easily pay, they get into the AML world.

Yeah, it’s interesting how very few people know about the ways payment frauds take place.

An analogy I can think of is highways. A non trivial number of vehicles plying them are carrying illegal goods. Payments is similar, when you set up a path for money to flow between A and B the very first users to adopt that path are money launderers.

Re: Clubhouse Payments

#155

Post by asimjalis »

kjjjjjjjjjjjjjj wrote: post #88

Does anyone use clubhouse for anything other than self promotion?

Clubhouse works really well for content creators. It enables serendipity it enables being able to interview people who are on the platform. It might not be the most optimal experience for contact consumers.

Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by asimjalis »

nowherebeen wrote: post #122

What is the actual monetization strategy other than sending money? Seems a bit weird for anyone to just send money to a creator. Is this meant to be some kind of tip jar?

This is a good point. I would rather have a ticket to enter a room. Or maybe a subscription which could be like a season ticket. The benefit of this would be that it would encourage curation of higher quality content. I would actively look for a room that was worth paying for.

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Post by shaklee3 »

iforgetti wrote: post #73
echelon wrote: post #40

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> Giants will clone and make a piece of shit. Facebook does a damn good job of sinking ships. The only two survivors I can think of are TikTok and Snapchat. And Snapchat pivoted.

Serious question, what did snap chat pivot to?

They made glasses with a camera in them

Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by tamersalama »

I’m surprised. With the explosive uptake they needed to keep on differentiating on features. Room searches, tools for moderation, tools for instant feedback, tools for scammer detection, tools for voting, tools for communicating media, and much more. They chose to add a feature that’s absent from competitors but, I’m guessing, nobody had asked for. My gut feeling is that it won’t last.

Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by BelenusMordred »

sss111 wrote: post #151
BelenusMordred wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Clubhouse is one of the very few online places I've seen people willing to speak frankly on sensitive political issues in Chinese This is more an effect of you being exposed to Chinese people rather than some new phenomenon. Mainland politics is everywhere online, it's in the digital spaces that Westerners rarely visit though.

What are some of these platforms? Would love to know

I get the feeling whatever I provide is going to be criticised, regardless, here goes:

百度贴吧 - https://tieba.baidu.com/

Probably the biggest platform out there. You can argue it's censored but then again the same arguments could be made about plenty of Western platforms who follow the moral mores of 2021. There's a lot of leetspeak to get around filters when talking about sensitive topics, translations aren't always great but if you find something particularly out of place maybe try checking for alt meanings.

There's >300 million active monthly users. Plenty of things you won't like in there.

人人 - https://www.renren.com/

Facebook style, mostly younger people.

天涯 - http://www.tianya.cn/

Traditional type forum, mainly older people, certainly more patriotic.

If you want to only read opinions you are more amenable to and won't accuse of being bots/cybertroopers I'd suggest the forums that foreign mainlanders often use. Around East Asia and the bamboo network there's few popular places:

吹水台 - https://lihkg.com/

Cari, an example thread - https://cn.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4263651&...

Plenty I've missed surely.

Re: Clubhouse Payments

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Post by coliveira »

wpietri wrote: post #146
geerlingguy wrote: post #135

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My prediction (based on little evidence, just gut feeling) is Clubhouse will go the way of Quora. It started out with a bang (fanfare and huge celebrity usage), ended (well I guess Quora still exists...) with a whimper.

As a former Quora Top Writer (2013 and 2014), that makes a lot of sense to me. And faster, I'd bet. What made Quora special in the early days was the high-quality community. Smart questions, smart writers answering them, even a reasonable proportion of smart comments. That seems to be the same sort of magic that Clubhouse has managed. It's not the technology, it's the community. But as Quora tried to scale, that got…

But "lead generation" is the fate of all social networks. It may be cool at the beginning, but very soon marketers will figure out how to use it for commercial purposes, and this will become 90% of the use. It is the same story on Facebook, Pinterest, and so many others.
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